It doesn’t matter if you’re a Labor fan, the good times won’t last. If you don’t install proportional representation this will come back to bite you in the ass as it has before.
Me in Canada: still bitter Trudeau abandoned this
I seem to remember Labour in the UK promising proportional representation in the 1990s, only to win a landslide in 1997 and never mention it again.
The saddest part of this is the tiny representation of the green party in parliament vs the voter sentiment :(
Ah, but these numbers come from this past election.
If we had PR then people would be more likely to vote Green because you don’t have to be tactical. Your vote goes to a Green seat, rather than voting for another party to keep Tories out.
Don’t cast this as anti-Green. The right wing Reform party is twice as deprived.
Proportional representation is good for all fringe parties.
Your comment confuses me. I never said there was anything anti-Green, just that the saddest part (for me) is that the green party is under represented in parliament in our existing fptp system.
I fundamentally dislike reform and everything that they stand for, but it would be fair if they had proportional representation too.
Honestly if they weren’t anti nuclear they might get more votes. It is definitely a wedge issue for a lot of people. They are also anti car which is good! Except I have never met anyone who is also anti car.
They also say weird things sometimes like wanting to reduce c sections and make birth a non medical event.
Honestly I’d take anti-nuclear over pro-fossil but yeah its not perfect.
I think part of the problem is that their entire MO is built around expecting to only get 1 or 2 seats.
I think they’d also get a lot more votes if people didn’t need to vote tactically. A lot of the left wing voters would be freed up to vote with an actual left wing party
Could somebody explain this to me (I’m from Belgium, so we have proportional representation)? Is it similar to the USA with each state going to a single party?
Basically, yes. Each of the 650 constituencies votes in a single member of parliament, even if they don’t get 50% of the vote, just more votes than anyone else. So if you have 3 constituencies that all vote 40% Labour, 35% Conservative, and 25% Lib Dem, you will get 3 Labour MPs, even though if it were proportional, you shpuld get at least 1 Conservative MP (sorry Lib Dems, too small a sample to let you have one too)
Thanks, this is very clear and also insane that it’s still that way. I thought the US was the only place where popular vote differed from the actually elected officials!
What kind of dumpster fire voting system is that? They should be forced to fix it if tgey ever want to rejoin the EU.
The issue with any two party system is that they’ll both fight tooth and nail to keep it that way.
The PR referendum was the only time they’ve ever worked together and the public fell for it.
I mean, even if you’re a labour fan, I can’t imagine needing to do a coalition with the liberal democrats and greens would hurt. That said, I don’t know much about UK politics.
