Honestly, I will never wrap my head around how people can happily bring infants on any flight where you can expect people to try and sleep, it’s incredibly lucky if they don’t spend some of it screaming their heads off—I would be mortified if my choices were preventing hundreds of people from sleeping. But I’m not going to rant too hard about that.
Why on earth hasn’t any airline started marketing adult-only flights?
It seems like a complete no brainer to me, I would choose it every time and pay extra for it.
Disclaimer: I may or may not be on a 36h day with only an hour of sleep right now
Grow up. You think it’s fun for us when our kids flip out? What are we supposed to do, hit them so you don’t get a little bit disturbed?
Grow the fuck up and realize this world isn’t just you.
And the world isn’t just about them? Bit of a selfish argument
I’m just wanting to opt out, I’m not the one choosing to bring kids that will inevitably scream on an overnight flight where people are going to be trying to sleep. There are plenty of flights where people won’t be trying to sleep.
Cool, that’s a mature reaction, just get angry rather than entertain the idea of considering others.
I have kids and when I took them on trips when they were little, I would book the most direct option. I didn’t consider the option where I could inconvenience the most entitled people.
I’ll never get why people get so worked up by babies crying on airplanes. The kids parents are just trying to get somewhere, same as everyone else. The plane is not your bedroom, or office, theater, or library. You know what you’re getting into when you board. You’re going to be in close quarters with strangers. Some of them might be kids that cry, some might be so old or weak that they have trouble stuffing their oversized carry on into the overhead bin. The difference is the weak person could have chosen to check the bag. Can you tell what my flying pet annoyance is? You just never know what you’re gonna get.
Like someone already said, the airlines don’t do it bc there’s no money in it.
If you’re an adult who doesn’t have or don’t work around children it’s hard to overstate how irritating they are. The noise, lack of self-awareness, the energy, the stickiness, and you have to censor yourself around them. Additionally, they’re way harder to reason with (if they even can communicate) and parents are notoriously shitty and self-righteous. Finally adults have consequences. If an adult screams their head off, runs up and down the aisles, or hit people around them then flight attendants can do something
You also act like that child HAS to be on that plane. You can drive, you could leave the kid with someone else, you could take a train, a bus, or you could just not go. We know planes specifically are really uncomfortable for babies because of the pressure. You chose to have a kid presumably knowing that you’d be making sacrifices for them. Maybe one of those sacrifices should be flying until they’re old enough to behave
I don’t mind kids on planes. They can be loud or obnoxious but adults can be worse, so whatever. If you have such a problem, you can drive, take a train or just not go, you know?
I’m an adult with adult responsibilities and obligations. Occasionally I do have to be on a plane. That child’s presence is almost certainly not required somewhere with such urgency that they simply must be on a plane. Also I can and do behave myself so I don’t need to be justified. Babies usually can’t and don’t, which is why we’re having this conversation in the first place
Same. I’ve flown more than most, sometimes with screaming kids nearby. Normally I don’t mind beyond the extra noise, provided that I’m well rested. The times when getting proper rest onboard is important, I book business class, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen kids in there.
So because you have trouble with noise, parents should be stuck at home until their children are old enough to be certain they won’t make noise in public? Kids have the right to just exist and go places, for fuck’s sake. Their parents’ lives don’t just pause while the kids grow up, they still want, and sometimes need, to go places, and those places being sometimes far, may have to be reached by plane. What are you expecting them to do, exactly?
Fuck off. OP wanted a way to avoid children while traveling on a public mode of transport. There’s no box to tick to make that happen. Children and parents have the same rights to make use of air travel as anyone else. Tough shit. Kids exist. You were once one, maybe still are.
We share this planet and there have to be a million examples where we moderate our own behavior in consideration of others. Be one of those examples. Or don’t, but live knowing the rest of us hate you.
I said I booked the most direct option, not the cheapest. Yes, of course I’m the entitled one here.
This is patently rediculous. Babies exist. They cry. They will be out in the public space. I personally think people should not have babies at this point in history but they do, they will, and thinking its entitlement that people with kids will have them with them is again, redic.
I truly do not understand why people don’t simply wait until the kid is old enough to handle frying before travelling with an airplane. My family travelled a lot by train, or sometimes car, then when I was around 7 or 8 years old we took a short flight.
Babies really won’t remember anything of the trip anyway, I really feel that travelling by plane is one of the things that you sacrifice for the first years of having a child. Call me entitled or whatever, but your childs screaming or running around on the plane is absolutely annoying to others.
Generally, you avoid frying your offspring.
But WRT the OPs concerns of flying; People move, get jobs in other cities and countries, have kids, want to visit families, grandparents get sick, etc.
There’s a whole range of reasons why. Going “whelp, you had kids, sorry we’re going to ostracise you from society until your crotchspawn can keep quiet” isn’t exactly an inclusive attitude.
It seems like a complete no brainer to me, I would choose it every time and pay extra for it
This part obviously isn’t true, or else you would have paid for First or Business class. There’s no guarantee that the expensive seats are kid-free, but it’s much more likely. They’ll give you free booze, too.
When I last flew international, my mum took business and the rest of us took economy. There was no noise on economy, but crying babies in business. The reason OP won’t pay extra for that is probably because there is no guarantee at all that it will be any quieter. It is not the same thing as what they want.
People show again and again they will buy the cheapest airfare tickets. People gripe about Spirit, but then save $100 and book tickets with Spirit.
TBF, if there’s no guarantee that paying more actually ensures a higher quality experience, why shouldn’t people prefer the cheapest option? Like any airline will let a passenger bring their screaming crotch goblins on the flight. It doesn’t make sense to pay for a more expensive airline in the hopes of avoiding such an experience. It would have to be an explicit feature of the flight that kids aren’t allowed, but I would 100% pay for that if it was an overnight flight.
