Crazy how the choice is between “everything the same with mild change (maybe)” and “everything horrible with the world”.
The choice is between having an opportunity to make a difference and being actively prevented from doing so.
A Trump administration will jail opponents, accelerate oil and gas drilling, and help to destroy the world that much faster.
We don’t have any chance to improve things if they win one more time.
Want a better world? It might be possible to still build one. You can’t look at Joe Biden and say “Eh, not good enough.”
If his plans aren’t enough for your tastes, organize and do better. Inspire others around you.
It’s not gonna be easy, and it might not even be possible. But each person who just gives up makes it that much harder for everyone else.
Me, I’m 50. I don’t have a ton of hope. But I’d like to still have a chance to leave a world to another generation that isn’t completely overrun by fascism.
Brazil pushed back. So did France and the UK. We CANNOT just give up.
There’s an election in November, so, no.
If Trump gets what Project 2025 wants him to have, SCOTUS will repeal term limits, and he’ll challenge the results of the next election using his party-loyal Article F State Department.
He’ll be “President” the same way Putin is “President.”
You do not get to insist that everything be the way you want it to be.
Grow up and use the power you actually have rather than spamming your discontent everywhere.
Work for what you want to happen. Or just roll over and invite the fascists in. Those are your two choices, and you’re saying the first one isn’t a choice.
That says A WHOLE LOT about you.
It’s the middle class who won’t be.
It’s the working poor who won’t be.
Why’d she say “working class” twice?
Because they didn’t want to say lower class, so they say working poor. The middle class has been gutted and demolished
The idea I was alluding to is that the distinction between “lower class” and “middle class” has always been fictional. It exists only to drive a wedge between working-class folks, for the benefit of the owner class.
Middle class then: Wealthy people who didn’t hold noble titles
Middle class now: I’m embarrassed to call myself working class
She forgot pre-existing conditions. Remember, ACA is the only thing that keeps those covered. Diabetes diagnosed now? Your cancer comes back? You have an auto immune disorder like MS?
She forgot social security. Even without Project 2025 Trump had repeatedly said he wants it gone. All that FICA tax paid never to be seen again. Also, can your parents live without it? Or will they have to move in with you now? Or are you still living with them and you both lose your roof?
bigger thing is no surprise billing came directly out of bidens administration. that and the non compete thing are big for me.
Biden earned my vote with those reforms and by capping the price on insulin. People don’t realize how many millions of diabetics who are working poor and massively fucked by the manufacturers - they can literally set whatever price they want, because it’s peoples fucking lives otherwise.
mind boggling. and these whiny so-called progressives that are going to put trump back in power? guh
Oh yeah. Having someone come into the Urgent Care or ED because of a tightness in the chest and shortness of breath because they had to choose between buying insulin and an asthma rescue inhaler this month.
There are also lots, and I do mean lots, of hospital beds taken up by uncontrolled diabetes. Some of it is flagrant “I don’t want to” in re to eating right and checking blood sugars, but the other half really is people who want to do their best with this trying diagnosis but cannot afford the test strips and medication every month so they ration out things that should never be rationed out or simply go without. There’s a ripple effect across all of heath care access with the fallout from it.
This is what I think every time I see someone on here haughtily saying that the Democrats need to EARN their vote. The Democrat politicians are wealthy and will be just fine if they’re voted out of office - it’s you and everyone else who isn’t wealthy that will be fucked over.
I’m largely convinced most “dems” threatening to withhold their vote are bots and trolls.
This election is between two well known candidates with presidential records. There’s no earning. You’re either one side or the other.
They’re usually not self-declared Democrats. Some may be trolling, but there are plenty of people who don’t seem to understand how FTPT voting works, since they’re always incensed when it’s said that if they don’t vote for Biden, they’re helping Trump (with the assumption that Biden is less bad to them than Trump). That, or they just value feeling like they were morally correct more than real-world consequences.
I’m going to vote but damn can we at least acknowledge how depressing it is to be stuck in this position to begin with? If 2016 wasn’t a wake up call I really don’t know how we can snap the Democratic Party out of this corporate controlled mediocrity.
how we can snap the Democratic Party out of this corporate controlled mediocrity.
You can’t “snap the Democratic Party out of this corporate controlled mediocrity” because “corporate controlled mediocrity” is the point.
What? You actually thought they “represented” you?
We literally cannot. We need a new party and we need to start making a lot of noise about that.
When Trump wins we need to kill the Democratic party entirely and start something new, but I have no idea how to get the money for that… The ultra wealthy that support Democrats aren’t going to help, they know the Democrats protect them…
All I know is there is no future for the Democratic party, or at least there really shouldn’t be…
We need a new party and we need to start making a lot of noise about that.
I’m still just thrown back to the 1968 convention, also in Chicago, when Dem voters made a bunch of noise and the Dem establishment dropped a giant police hammer on their heads.
This seems to be the political response to every outcry among Dem base voters. The conservative leaders are more gleeful when they unleash armies of police on your Gold Star Moms or your Palestinian protesters. But the liberal leaders are just as quick to put tanks in the streets and send SWAT in to start clubbing heads and filling prisons whenever your OWS types start getting out of line.
That’s utter bullshit. Cite your sources.
Democrats are quick to attack peaceful protests? The fuck they are.
Or, how about push for Ranked Choice Voting and reform/remove the Electoral College. Let’s make voting actually count and let people vote for who they actually want, not a lesser of two evils.
Then and ONLY then can we get some other parties in the mix with a shot. Otherwise it’s going to be the same it’s always been, 3rd party loses under the flood of people voting for 1 of 2.
Those 2 goals are achievable, some states already have RCV. Let’s get it on the ballot everywhere and make it happen.
Wake up call for what? They won last election with a corporate candidate and have a decent chance of doing it this time too. Like the post says, they don’t care that much about losing, their life isn’t threatened by it.
The only thing that can be done is to keep on voting for the non-fascist candidate hoping that one day both of the main parties will present one that fits the category.