A federal appeals court has agreed to halt the reinstatement of net neutrality rules until August 5th, while the court considers whether more permanent action is justified.

It’s the latest setback in a long back and forth on net neutrality — the principle that internet service providers (ISPs) should not be able to block or throttle internet traffic in a discriminatory manner.

The current FCC, which has three Democratic and two Republican commissioners, voted in April to bring back net neutrality. The 3–2 vote was divided along party lines.

Broadband providers have since challenged the FCC’s action, which is potentially more vulnerable after the Supreme Court’s recent decision to strike down Chevron deference — a legal doctrine that instructed courts to defer to an agency’s expert decisions except in a very narrow range of circumstances.

Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Matt Schettenhelm said in a report prior to the court’s ruling that he doesn’t expect the FCC to prevail in court, in large part due to the demise of Chevron.

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From the outside it really seems that a large amount of the USA administration is actively working against the USA’s interests. Which sounds weird.

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The GOP is doing everything it can to fuck up our government in favor of corporate and foreign interests: They are literally selling America out for a quick buck while all their rich asshole friends enjoy even more obscene wealth.

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It depends on how you define “the USA”. If you mean the people of this country, then absolutely they are working against us. If you mean the people with loads and loads of money, then no, they are working as hard as they fucking can for them.

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And it’s probably worth noting that the second definition is the only “real” USA.

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It’s seems that way from the inside, too.

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“The administration “ usually means the Executive Branch, the FCC, which in this case is trying to do a good thing. Net neutrality has long been supported by a majority of voters, and has been active on party lines: Democrat majority is trying to do the right thing for their constituents

In this case corporations affected sued to overturn and the court, the Judicial Branch, issued a stay of enforcement until the final ruling.

This is very much a problem of corporations having too much say, and one of the parties protecting corporations over citizens

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It is weird to observe from the inside as well.

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It’s absolutely true, the republikkkan party is all about licking the boots of the corporations and shitting on the poor. The only helpful things they do is to make the ultra rich richer. It’s too bad their base is brainwashed and too stupid to see it. I work with a clown and he keeps bringing up all the bad shit the republicans do and blames the democrats for it. It’s wild. I said to him you do realize that it’s the republicans that did that, not the democrats right? He looked at me and said I’m an idiot for believing that. I showed him the proof and he said I was making it up. You can’t even talk to these people anymore.

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I mean, if you vote for the GOP their platform is literally “me doing less work is good for you.”

Imagine if you hired ANY professional under those terms “hi, yeah I’m Jack, the plumber. Listen, you don’t want another bathroom, you want fewer bathrooms. Can’t have the whole house smelling like shit can we? You understand.”

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You forgot to add:

“Oh, btw your neighbor dresses kind of funny. Are you sure your family is safe with them Nextdoor?”

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I’m more of a free market guy than most of y’all, but the internet should clearly be treated as a utility.

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Thats what we were pushing for back in 2015

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Since you brought it up, why are you a free market person?

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I like the free market too, but having a small number of companies control a necessary resource definitely isn’t a free market.

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That’s part of the issue with free markets. There’s a missing part to the term that most people drop for some reason, and that would be ‘competition’. Competition doesn’t last very long before there are winners and losers. When it comes to the economy, that means the winner is the largest company and the losers are the companies that were bought or shut down. The end game of free market competition is monopoly. The only reason the competition doesn’t end is because of government regulation to facilitate and uphold capitalist free markets.

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There’s no such thing as a free market.

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I like not having sawdust in my food and legal recourse when a company takes advantage of me, so regulated markets are my preferred method.

What do you like about free markets?

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18 hours later: Crickets

They aren’t going to answer this question. Nobody reveals their stupidity on purpose.

Besides, we already know what all the Capitalist propaganda says. We know what the answer would be.

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Yeah random guy on the internet, justify yourself

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That’s not what I asked them to do. I disagree with free markets, but that doesn’t mean I’m resistant to learning from other people’s perspectives.

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It’s always the same reasons: indoctrination, lack of critical thinking, pseudo-science, etc.

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Telecos hate the idea of free market on the internet when they are providing the service.

From their perspective, they are entitled to that cut… Why should Google get it all?

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Maybe because we’ve been paying them a tax since the early 2000’s to provide fiber broadband to the majority of Americans, which they have pocketed and refused to actually build any infrastructure to support this?

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Critical thinking has been spotted!

Telcos are the worst of corporate parasites, at least telsa built a car and SpaceX built a rocket, and Boeing can build a plane

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Depends on the telco. I’m using a small local ISP that supports net neutrality and provides 10Gbps for $40/month. Perfect. Very grateful that I can use them instead of AT&T or Xfinity/Comcast.

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I feel like everyone within developed countries should offer everyone a bare minimum free internet access. Like, even if it’s as slow as dialup, at least it would still be access.

Then, if you want high speed internet, which I’m sure most people would want, then you pay monthly for that of course.

But this whole thing they’re doing now, where they can throttle or even block sites at their own discretion for paying customers, well that’s just totally back-asswards…

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you know… I don’t think I could pick many better ways to remind a population that they are nothing more than chattel.

superior quality rulling there, supreme court.

/s on that last sentence, cuz you never know.

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I find it absolutely astounding that the president appoints the judges for the highest courts in the land.

Which fucking morons thought that would be a good idea? That’s obviously going to be abused.

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A bunch of slavermasters invented this system for exactly this purpose.

And yes, they were disgusting morons.

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A bunch of idealistic revolutionaries ove 300 years ago. We just haven’t fixed the problems because people now worship said revolutionaries.

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Their system is a natural result of their “ideals”: racism, slavery, classism, privilege, patriarchy, theft, genocide, etc.

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We are talking about people who were somewhat contemporary with the utopian movement, who are considered to be the an ideological ancestor to socialism. Some utopians had slavery backed in. Them being flawed doesnt make them not idealists, name a revolutionary movement that didnt pull shit like early American government or whatever schizo shit the French revolution devolved into before Napoleon.

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I don’t know that I’d call them idealistic. They were landed nobles who didn’t want to pay the increased taxes levied on them. Which in turn were to pay for the war their government had fought on their behalf to protect them from the native people whose land they had stolen. By exterminating those native people.

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They were idealistic in that a lot of them subscribed to the ideals of the enlightenment which as a reminder was not a working class movement. Most of the compromises they made were innate issues of their era, but there is still that massive throughline within a lot of it that assumes that those in power are statesmen not demagogues. The problem is that I doubt they would expect the very checks and balances to be used by the demagogues they feared.

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it literally costs nothing to ignore the supreme court and lower courts people.

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I desperately hope that if Kamala Harris takes the nomination (which seems more and more likely every day with even Obama coming out and publicly telling Biden to step down), she has the stones to openly defy the court and push through judicial reform. Either impeach and replace Thomas and Alito, or eliminate the fillibuster to pack the courts.

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Biden’s ego is going to fuck us over.

EDIT: Eating my own words

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Apparently not

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“John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.” -Andrew Jackson

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