The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.
If liking the CEO of a company is a prerequisite for using the product… guess I’d better become a hermit.
I know, I’m monster. I bought a box of biscuits the other day without even recognising which company it was from. Who knows what kind of nasty shit whoever’s at the top of that mud heap believes.
once you do know and choose to ignore, it’s at that point you become the asshole
Seriously. The only difference between Tesla and every other car company is that Musk is vocal.
If you think other CEOs aren’t just as big POSs as Musk, you’re delusional.
Wtf?? Yes, he’s a dick and annoying, but who sells their fucking car because they don’t like the companies CEO???
I think he’s an absolute donkey, but I see Tesla separately from him. The company itself and their cars are pretty solid.
Completely aside but I find this interesting:
Consumer Reports‘ annual reliability rankings have been released, and with data from 24 brands and over 300,000 vehicles, Tesla fell near the bottom (19/24) along with Mercedes-Benz, Jeep, Volkswagen, GMC, and Chevrolet. Electric vehicles overall also placed poorly, being the second least reliable category of vehicles. Hybrids/plugin hybrids, especially those from Toyota, were found to be the most reliable.
I’m surprised hybrids have better reliability given their overall increase in complexity compared to either electric or ICE cars. Though frankly I’m not surprised Toyota does them well…
I’ve been reading that the QC on Tesla vehicles is actually fairly poor though. Panels not aligned and such. There’s also the false range readings.
How i see it, the physical build quality is pretty poor, but the UX is a bit better, as a lot of car companies are pretty terrible at car software.
Nah, that’s all internet myths these days. The first 6 motnsh, maybe 8 from the Fremonth factory has panel issues. That’s not a thing from the Chinese or EU fa Tory and mostly gone in the Fremont ones.
Range is the same issue as your petrol one. No one gets that range as it’s under “ideal” conditions. If you want to be mad, be mad at your EPA and how they test and rate all cars.
I mean granted yeah, it’s not perfect. But for me and what I need it to be done aka be fully electric and have a good amount of range along with a charging network, they have it all.
When other manufacturers adopt NACS and they open their charging stations there will be a lot more options and that are worth it. But for now I’m happy with the car.
Based on what I’ve heard about the build quality I don’t agree the cars are solid
Agree. They have the best batteries and were ground breaking on the things they provided…but darn, those cars are louder inside than my Toyota Camry.
And yes, to an extent we haven’t invested in a Tesla because of Musk. My wife can’t stand him. We’ve postponed buying an electric and we’re looking to see how PoleStar develops. At least for our entry point.
Virtue signalers. Weirdly that’s what people who bought it because of him were called so I honestly have no idea who to believe.
Buy them, don’t buy them. No idea why this has to be such a big thing. He’s a bellend. So was jobs. So was Edison. So we’re most people you’ve heard of. That doesn’t mean the product isn’t good.
At this point if you buy anything you’re ostensibly supporting some dick. You just have to pick your battles and at the moment I couldn’t give a crap what he says on twitter as I don’t use it and can’t wait for it and Facebook to be killed off. Doesn’t mean they make crap products no one about buy.
Honestly, tribalism is the worst thing on Reddit and lemmy seems to be more and more infected each day
I (and I would imagine most other people) can’t even name the CEO for any car company outside of Tesla and maybe a few small niche brands.
Teslas aren’t buy-it-and-forget-about-it. They are continually making updates to the software, and building new charging stations. My Toyota hasn’t changed since it left the factory (aside from normal maintenance), and Toyota doesn’t have significant influence on how I can get gas.
So, sell your model 3 and then go buy an EV (or ICE) from one of the other automakers that fought tooth and nail to prevent the transition to EVs and sustainable transportation. Oh yeah, and the entire industry shorted Tesla stock for YEARS hoping they would go bankrupt.
Yes, Elon is a dick but people that get rid of their Tesla for this reason are god damned idiots.
Those EV manufacturers would not exist without the work Tesla did to advance EVs over being shorted for years by traditional automakers.
And?
I loved Google. They did a lot of great things for the world, they were the driving force behind all sorts of technology, and were champions of the web, upgradable electronics, and helping individual devs get their side projects off the ground.
Years went by, and now i hesitate to use chrome even though their debugger is the best, am looking at degoogling my phone and watching Linux phones with interest, and I recently realized I trust Microsoft more than them. I even use Bing before I go to Google these days - their search isn’t much better anymore, and Bing more than makes up the difference
You can’t give corporations or billionaires points for the past - they’re always going to go bad eventually. Giving them loyalty is like drinking tap water that used to be good but now is making your hair fall out - maybe it was good before, maybe it’ll be good again, but for tomorrow you should probably look at other options
Those cars are FAR too expensive for most people to afford. Tesla is the only new car company even trying at making affordable cars.
There are definitely people who could upgrade from a Model 3 to a Model S, and they are choosing a different car because of Musk.
Furthermore, a lot of people have decided that supporting established car companies, with all their faults, is still better than supporting Musk. And they may choose to switch to the Bolt, Leaf, Kona, Ioniq or similar.
Yeah, I’d rather not support the CEO who has actively scrubbed Marc Tarpenning and Martin Eberhard off of Tesla’s legacy, has actively fucked with Cali’s HSR for his shit idea more or less meant to just prevent HSR in the first place, made a fire hazard into a “revolutionary idea” with that tunnel for Teslas, and calls people pedophiles because they call him out on his bullshit “promises”.
Why? Tesla did what was beneficial for them, the other car manufacturers did the same for them. Now EVs are here to stay, they can’t backtrack and Tesla seems like they were shitty in their own way like outright lying about the range and suppressing complaints. That doesn’t mean that the other companies are the good guys, the subscription seat warmers are fucking idiotic but that doesn’t make Tesla good either.
Maybe they’re just sick of answering “you support Elon Musk” questions. These are luxuryish cars[1] to begin with, these sort of people can probably afford to change cars based on “I don’t like the CEO.” Musk always acted like the “Steve Jobs” of the automotive world and sold Tesla as an Apple-like high-end brand. The risk you take is that if you’re an asshole instead of a black turtleneck-wearing hipster then your customers will turn on you.
[1] yes yes, I know about the model 3.
Driving a Tesla is just an expensive MAGA hat.
That’s not really fair, it’s a big investment, and new cars are wasteful. Also, Musk wasn’t like this so openly before he started meeting with Trump in the white house.
Not that long ago he was a dickhead hype man for electric cars and reusable rockets. As billionaires go, that’s close to as good as it gets
A new one, post Twitter takeover? Fair.
From the Romero school for the Obvious: Elmo Husk is a devout shiatbird and should be shunned from polite society. That being said, those cars are freaking neat and NACS is a reasonable standard to use… Still want one (used MX), but in a manner that would convenience me the most and profit him the least.
