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I was actually going to the airport yesterday, and was wondering why the otherwise 30 minute drive took over an hour, with the lineups already reaching the hwy exit. I was explaining to my relative, that see, Montreal has such little foresight, they couldn’t build a train to reach the airport in fifty years, unlike Toronto and their Union-Pearson express, which makes YYZ a superior departure point.

Little did I know that this was a sit-in by activists. And the First Nation & Eco activists do this stuff in Toronto all the time. As in block the UP / CN lines, so it’s not like that would be exempt from delays either.

All the power to them mind you. I’m just trying to highlight my smugness and bias towards Toronto transit interconnectedness.

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Nearly every other developed country on the planet has rail connecting their major airports. It just makes sense. Of course i didn’t bring my personal car with me on the flight. The train is often cheaper than a taxi too.

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From a recent ruling in the UK.

“I acknowledge that at least some of the concerns motivating you are, at least to some extent, shared by many,” he said.

“But the plain fact is that each of you has some time ago crossed the line from concerned campaigner to fanatic. You have appointed yourselves as the sole arbiters of what should be done about climate change, bound neither by the principles of democracy nor the rule of law.

“And your fanaticism makes you entirely heedless of the rights of your fellow citizens. You have taken it upon yourselves to decide that your fellow citizens must suffer disruption and harm, and how much disruption and harm they must suffer, simply so that you may parade your views.”

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What an absolutely tone deaf and patronizing statement. The world is ending but god forbid we inconvenience anyone while trying to do something about it.

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No, no you misunderstand. Let me translate:

“Die in a hole you filthy peasant. Your life is expendable and you won’t be missed when the police gun you down in the climate riots 20 years from now.”

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Read it again. You are NOT morally superior. The three people he was writing about are now spending 2, 2, and 3 years in prison because they mistakenly believe that they are absolutely morally superior and that that absolute moral superiority justifies anything that they do to anyone they see as inferior. This is the same mistake that every extremist makes.

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I think it’s safe to say that if they gave up their freedom for the cause of trying to save us and our descendants from climate catastrophe then they are absolutely morally superior to both of us. The mistake you make is thinking that the law has a single thing to do with moral superiority, it only deals in financial superiority.

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Yes the harm of being delayed a coupled minutes while siting in a nice climate controled vehicle that has comfy seats and an entertainment system.

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Have you ever been to the Montreal airport? 45 minutes to drive the loop is normal without protesters. It took hours with the protesters. What if someone missed a flight and didn’t get to the hospital to see their dying patent or child for the last time? What if someone missed a court appearance and ended up in prison? There are so many reasons that this protest could cause real, lasting harm to the people who are, “inconvenienced”. I think that the judges words, voices on the ruling where he sentenced the people to two and the hearts in prison for the same sort of protest, really last it out perfectly well. Your comment and the protesters are utterly tone deaf.

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Okay, lets just keep burning fuel until all of us are harmed by earth’s wrath. Will you show the same sympathy to flood and wildfire victims? Those events are going to happen more frequently if we do not bring an end to climate change. Many currently inhabited places may become too hot or too dry to survive.

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guy needs to look up the meaning of the word “sole”

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congratulations?

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The UK is deporting innocent people to fucking Rwanda, lmao.

They were. The new government killed that plan on day 1.

“I acknowledge that at least some of your concerns are shared by many but since we don’t want to do anything about it because that would mean changing our western week-end-at-the-resort lifestyle, we’ll just put you in prison. Fuck you.”

“But the plain fact is that each of you has some time ago crossed the line from concerned campaigner to fanatic. You have appointed yourselves as the sole arbiters of what should be done about climate change, bound neither by the principles of democracy nor the rule of law.

“And your fanaticism makes you entirely heedless of the rights of your fellow citizens. You have taken it upon yourselves to decide that your fellow citizens must suffer disruption and harm, and how much disruption and harm they must suffer, simply so that you may parade your views.”

I suspect that it’s very clear to most people at this point that the actions of these fanatics and the whinging, feeble attempts at shaming, insults, name calling, and harassment by fanatics and their apologists online aren’t actually intended to change anyone’s minds. It’s a fanatical circle jerk, as the judge suggested in the quoted ruling.

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I wish they could figure out a better strategy than making people hate them.

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Doesn’t anything less mean they get ignored?

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Comfortable protest isn’t protest.

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No?

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It’s not about the climate. It’s about inconveniencing other people. They use the climate as a fake motivation as it’s the latest coolest thing to care about.

In the best case scenario it’s a false flag operation coordinated by big oil, and these people are just easy prey to play their cause. That way it’s actually an excuse for their behaviour.

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Jesus, what a bleak outlook, that people can’t care about something that impacts their lives and it’s just to be popular OR they’re shills. I mean this in the most serious way: please seek the help of a professional psychologist. Your misery, misanthropy, and paranoia aren’t necessary.

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It’s a self satisfying parade of their absolute moral superiority. It’s a public circle jerk.

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No

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Polluters aren’t people, silly.

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You mean people trying to get to the airport?

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Glued their hands to the road. My forth thought was solvent which might give them chemical burns. Then I thought leaving them there for days in the sun to sit in their own filth.

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In Germany the police do this.

Cut them free, charge them, then let them go. I hope he’s left handed. Good luck wiping your own ass!

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