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The original was posted on /r/technology by /u/wish-u-well on 2024-07-27 02:37:53+00:00.

2 points

Wow! A battery that can magically transport itself 600 miles! What a world we live in!

Or, you know, it’s a no sense claim with made up numbers.

I have been seeing multiple battery tech claims per week, ever week, for the past 30 years and well over 99% of the claims are bull. Dumb claims like this battery goes 600 miles" tells you all you need to know.

Show me the money, then we’ll talk

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3 points

That sounds like an excessively large battery.

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According to Samsung SDI’s VP, automakers are interested in its solid-state battery packs because they are smaller, lighter, and much safer than what’s in current electric cars. Apparently, they are also rather expensive to produce, since it warns that they will first go into the “super premium” EV segment of luxury electric cars that can cover more than 600 miles on a charge.

Apparently not, though this is all marketing speak

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2 points

How bloody long were they before they made this smaller one?

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I bet they’ll conveniently forget to make them have 20 year lifespans when they start actually selling them. Because otherwise that falls into “too good to be true” territory and this is Samsung, a large tech corporation.

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15 points

There are probably more asterisks than starts inn that statement.

Is 20 years the average? The maximum under ideal circumstances? What would be the effective capacity of the battery at 19 years? What is the maintenance required?

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It doesn’t matter. Cars are still an unsustainable and inequitable grift destroying the planet. Just ban cars and make a million light EVs instead.

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I wouldn’t be able to get to work or buy groceries without a car. I also refuse to pay the cost to live in a walkable area, as everything is significantly more expensive. The change required to create a city that is both affordable and livable without a car is impossible at this point.

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The problem with arguing that we can’t just redesign cities for mixed transit is that is EXACTLY what we did for cars. 🤷‍♂️

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I disagree, but the USA just isn’t willing to have that conversation right now. I work in a suburb and work in the middle of fucking no where 19 miles away; I regularly e-bike and take the bus to my place of employment. It takes the same amount of time to drive as it does to e-bike. The e-bike can also get me to all the places I run errands at as well. The only infrastructure I need is a dedicated, protected bike lane on the state and busy roads, and a well maintained public transportation system.

This is a solvable problem, even with the limited resources we have at our disposal.

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Vehicles will always have specific use cases, it’s just that most of North America’s infrastructure is designed to accommodate vehicles with everything else being designed around that, put in as an afterthought or just not thought of in the first place (like cycling infrastructure). So people are using these machines for things that are outside their use case, as it has been for almost a century.

As things are right now, people would probably die if cars were outright banned. It’s kind of funny how important personal vehicles have become and as such kind of scary how necessary they are (it’s a bit of a paradox, isn’t it?). To ban cars there first needs to be a good replacement option like well connected rail lines or cycling only roads (or at least protected bicycle lanes). These take time, money, resources and, most of all, political will to create. For most of the developed world money and resources aren’t exactly an issue, the issue is politics that lock up those resources for vehicles.

I.e., funding for my cities major bicycle route that serves 1000+ people everyday is still only funded by my regions parks and recreation board which doesn’t get enough money to maintain it properly. Even though it’s really great, I can’t use it after dark because there aren’t any lights until I get to a shared route and there are a few bridges that are so uneven I have to walk across.

North America has to undo multiple decades of relentless car-centred development and the prevailing political climate means that will happen piecemeal at a municipal level, street by street, year by year. I personally don’t want to wait for that though, so I’m learning Dutch.

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19 points

Ban cars with most of the world lacking proper EV infrastructure…

This idiotic statements is how you bread opposition to the cause among working people in US who are required a car to exist

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I love Americans 🤦 There’s the whole world out there with working people depending on cars.

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NOT*?

Yeah cool story but in us we don’t have infrastructure so we gonna need it if people are to eat

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8 points

How are they opposed to bread? It’s impossible to keep up with politics these days. And you can never tell if you’re reading an actual post or just more big leaven lobbyist propaganda.

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106 points

Honey wake up, it’s the weekly miracle battery tech!

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28 points

But now it’s actually being produced and put into products.

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Sweet, I’ve been thinking about getting another EV. Which one is it in? I’ve got some time to go do test drives this weekend.

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They said it would be in Lexus first if you read the article. There are power banks on the market with solid state batteries today if you like.

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