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"Ivy, you know who I am at this point. Let me attest that most of these people don’t actually do shit. There are layers of layers of management and shareholders that allow the average generational wealth billionaire to extract extreme amounts of wealth without doing shit. That’s honestly a good thing in your case, because anyone who actually has the ability to make obscene money in this universe is either a superhero or supervillain, and you would have just walked into their secret hideout.

If you do kill him, the best case scenario is a collection of hedge funds you never heard of divy up his controlling shares and keep business as usual flowing. The worst case is Luthor buys the company and makes everything a million times worse as step one in a convoluted plan to kill superman via kryptonite laced micro plastics. The most likely thing is one of those technically secret society orgs seizing control because at this point they just need some win. My money is on the Owls. They’ve been humiliated so many times they’ve been officially downgraded to “community advisory committee”.

I honestly don’t even understand where this is coming from. You and Freeze both have blank checks from both WayneTech and Star Labs to continue your research. Either of you alone could reverse large portions of climate change. If you really wanted to go the vigilante route, you could have just mind controlled him. Darksied is planning an invasion, there are no less than three evil AIs rolling around, I’m dealing with two separate split personalities, and I haven’t heard from the Joker in a while which means we’re all probably fucked. Even if I did notice, it would take me literal years to get around to actually fixing it. It feels like you are doing this because on some level you want to fail, because that’s easier than doing the hard work required to fix the systemic abuses of our system "

“…So I take it the Therapy’s working, huh Bruce?”

“Sort of. It’s Batman”.

“Actually technically right now you’re Nightwing. Care to explain that?”

“It’s a long story. The short of it is that I’m pulling double duty because Dick somehow forgot how to fucking Jump and Jason took Damien out for “Beer and Cigarettes”, which I can only hope is literal because anything it would be a metaphor for would involve no less than two dozen corpses.”.

“Jesus Christ and Harley said I was carrying too much stress. I’ll come back next week, get some rest Bruce”

“Batman”

"Nightwing "

“…”

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44 points

Here’s some Lemmy gold Golden Lemmy

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If Lemmy had the feature to tip with gold, instance operators would pop out of the ground like weeds and do anything to grow. It could lead to a flourishing of the fediverse.

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41 points

And the enshittification would start.

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5 points

Dude if you do any short story writing send me a link cause I like how you framed this, bravo man

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103 points

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35 points

The trust fund billionaire with suit nipples.

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12 points

People who are too dumb to understand comic books are rooting for nuclear winter.

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Hopefully we get solar fusion instead.

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2 points

The Joker is just trying to introduce a little mirth into the world, but that mean ol’ humorless Batman keeps stopping him.

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72 points

Batman is the bad guy and I will die on that hill.

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36 points

More and more I feel Batman in quite a few versions is just the DC Punisher going around punching poor and mentally ill people

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Waynetech does huge amounts of charity work, it’s just not very interesting in a comic book.

Gotham also has a literal curse that makes it perpetually dysfunctional. Its cop out comic book bullshit, but Gotham literally cannot be fixed.

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Gotham also has a literal curse that makes it perpetually dysfunctional. Its cop out comic book bullshit, but Gotham literally cannot be fixed.

I have a serious question, who in universe knows about this? Because if Batman knows the city is irreparably cursed (why is it irreparable btw? There might not be quite as many high fantasy wizards running around as in marvel but there are still some, surely somebody could fix it) and doesn’t use his billions to relocate the population somewhere else, then he’s still the bad guy. If someone else knows about it and doesn’t tell Batman then they’re the bad guy.

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18 points

andrew carnegie literally wrote a book about how the point of doing philanthropy is to buy off rubes like you, and yet rubes like you still buy it. Amazing.

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The curse that makes Gotham dysfunctional is capitalism.

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Within the story yes there’s “reasons” but I mean Batman as a literary/art piece commonly has very reactionary elements within it that puts it kinda on a pseudo Punisher level within the reactionary zietgiest, for example The Dark Knight Returns has a lot of critique towards commonly apped “liberal” tropes and the Robin of that universe went to go fight crime with Batman cuss her parents smoke pot.

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I read a lot of Batman and I don’t know what you’re referring to. I’m sure it’s established canon, but I feel like a lot of people write Batman that don’t consider “a curse on Gotham City” to be part of the mythology that they’re contributing to.

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Gotham also has a literal curse that makes it perpetually dysfunctional. Its cop out comic book bullshit, but Gotham literally cannot be fixed.

Ive always hated this argument. How many master sorcerer’s and litteral gods does this man know that could break the curse? Deep down batman knows that Gotham can be fixed, it’s just not gonna be him that does it. That kills him

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13 points

Batman won’t let you die. He’ll just tie you up and send you to Arkham.

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5 points

Batman fundamentally embodies social justice as an individual violent power fantasy. He’s the ultimate reactionary: use violence to fix individual people’s problems, never address (or even acknowledge) the violence inherent to the social system. (Some authors’ occasional deviations from this core characterization do not make up for it).

At best Batman is enjoyable because anti-heroes are enjoyable (I’ve heard there are some self-aware issues of Batman). At worst it’s painfully unaware, mask-off copaganda (such as the one and-and-a-half Nolan movies I slugged through).

The top comment is a fanfic about Batman explaining social systems to Poison Ivy. Great idea, except that such wokeness is antithetical to his entire worldview. He’s basically a Republican who happens to be against the death penalty for personal/religious reasons.

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Joker is the good guy too.

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2 points

No sarcasm allowed >:(

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None used. Seriously

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51 points

7 years? That’s a pretty old meme. We have already done irreparable damage and we could only mitigate it at this point.

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The great thing about the earth is that it has a seemingly boundless capacity to renew itself.

The bad thing is that renewal takes time and often results in a radically different biosphere with organisms best suited to predate on prior iterations of life.

I’m less worried about how the earth will look in 10,000 years than I am worried about how humans will survive in the next 100.

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You are absolutely right, I meant more for us humans. The earth will recover. With or without humans.

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3 points

That’s a 90’s meme.

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Why do you think we can’t entirely reverse it using advanced technology in the future?

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First, what makes you think we can? It’s a strong claim to put forth without evidence.

Second, I won’t be there in the future, so I’d like things not get too bad in the meantime.

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15 points

There is a shocking amount of people on Lemmy that just simply seem to believe that science literally is magic and can do anything with enough money behind it.

No facts needed. No study in the field. And won’t even take the word of specialists and actual scientists, cause they just feel right in their heart and the world/Internet has made them feel like that’s enough.

Maybe it’s over optimism to not be depressed but gosh is it annoying.

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Well I think it can be fixed with technology because fixing it doesn’t violate any laws of physics.

A more pressing question however is whether we humans will obtain or develop the necessary technology and put enough resources into using it, soon enough to make a difference to us. And on that question my magic 8-ball says “Outlook not so good.”

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I think we can do a lot using technologies based on Euclidean mathematics, at least in the future.

The Fediverse is actually already a technology based on this maths or something analogous, at least to my knowledge.

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11 points

We can fix it in the future has been an argument for decades at this point and we still haven’t found that magical fix while barreling towards ecological desaster. All data points so far show that this magical technology will not arrive before we all suffer permanent and irreperable damage.

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Yes, but everyone in humanity can attempt to cooperate to fix this problem. After that, we would be living in a paradise we can only dream of right now.

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Only a child would believe marvel level technology is possible.

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Batman would rather beat up and cripple poor people who fell into crime from their situation, instead of actually doing something about it. After decades, Gotham ends up worse than when he got in, and the criminals just got crazier. He made it worse.

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Like the War on drugs, with an intermediate level analysis :)

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