71 points

What country do you live in: Germany, United States, Brazil, other

What? Weird survey options.

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Data retention would be my guess.

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1 point

Someone being funny? BUG

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7 points

Very weird, because it’s not sorted alphabetically. That means there is a bias in the sorting, because the first option is default and the best option for most users.

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8 points

They are sorted at random for each visitor.

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3 points

Oh I meant this as a joke, to place Germany as the best answer.^^ But regardless, good to know its random. Probably doesn’t even matter.

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6 points

could just be the countries with the most users or where they’ve seen a recent trend, up or down, in local market share.

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1 point

It has always been

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3 points

I didn’t see that question, but all 3 of those countries seem to rank pretty high on the country demographics for FOSS that I’ve seen (as in when individual FOSS projects do demographics surveys of their users)

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@neme loaded questions are loaded.

The “Want most” to “Want least” scale is loaded AF.

Where is the option for “I don’t want any of these things”?

Edit: Yeah, fuck that. That survey is bullshit. I stopped bothering to give answers due to the multi-choice questions seeming like a way for Mozilla to have a wank about itself.

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This is fairly standard survey design, I believe. They’re not looking to know which features are wanted in general; they want to know their relative popularity. The sets you’re presented are randomised (i.e. we don’t all get to see the same sets), which allows them to get a ranked list of lots of potential features, while only having to run ten survey questions per participant.

If you get a set with three features that everyone likes or dislikes at about the same level, then it doesn’t really matter want you answer: they’ll all end up at the top or bottom of the list, respectively. Because each of those options also get presented as part of different sets to different users, where different answers can win out.

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@Vincent couldn’t finish the survey purely because of the questions suggesting that I should “want” something.

Perhaps if they asked the question differently, they’d have gotten a completed survey from me.

I can’t answer loaded questions.

The samples they get are meaningless if only people who complete the survey are counted.

The fact that I couldn’t select none of them and move forward, meant something: Jerk Mozilla off, or don’t.

I chose not to, and I am a Mozilla user!

#librewolf

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3 points

I’m half-way through the survey right now; and rather than continuing, just stalling because I don’t want to rank another set of three options that I don’t care about. Some of the choices already given were like “well, I guess I’ll pick the feature that I’ve at least thought about using once…” but now it’s just a list of 3 things that I don’t want whatsoever. I’m trying to give useful feedback, but I feel like I’m really just giving noise.

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7 points

The problem with this design is, if people do not care, then they will give random answers, if they don’t have the option to not care. Also this would be important information for Mozilla too, if many people do not care about a specific question. So I feel like they should have done that. But, who am I…

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2 points

Any uncertainty would be filtered out by the scale of people answering

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2 points

Presumably if people don’t care, they don’t fill in the survey. But as an extra failsafe, they’ve also included the feature “twice as slow as your current browser”. If you rank that high, then your result can probably be discarded.

But yeah, this design has worked well for many other surveys, so presumably it’ll work well for this one. They’re the experts :)

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You’re bang on. It’s called MaxDiff. I use it frequently in my line of work to prioritise product or service messaging with panel data. It’s better in some cases to use Inferred preference rather than stated, but generally good to keep the options comparable in “size” of offer.

I would never interpret a MaxDiff model low end result as “wow, 5% of people want slower browsers.” Instead I’m focusing on the top cluster. As with any model, they’re only ever so accurate. Don’t read into the questions too much.

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5 points

Why not just get one big list with like 4 answers:

  • really want
  • want
  • meh
  • don’t want

How is that worse than getting like 10 screens of relative answers?

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2 points

Because you’ll end up with ten features that all have overwhelmingly “really want” and “want” answers, and then you still don’t know which of those ten to work on first.

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2 points

I hope my response will get thrown out because I prefer a slower browser over built-in AI based personalization.

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1 point

It doesn’t seem randomized based on what I have seen

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1 point

You mean you’ve taken it multiple times and kept seeing the exact same ten sets?

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8 points

I don’t know if the survey questions are loaded, but it feels like they could easily be misinterpreted.

For example, somebody might rank the “organize toolbar buttons and AI chatbots” even if they hate AI’s snake oil, and now Mozilla has a data point where they can say “Some of our respondents said they want AI as much as side tabs!”

This seems especially sketchy when the side tab idea came directly from a vocal portion of Mozilla users, while the decision to follow the AI chatbot trend was decided by the same management that overpays their CEO every year.

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54 points

Which of the following attributes would you most want your new browser to have, and which would you want least?

Twice as slow as your current browser

Is that a joke?

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48 points

Control question probably, to check if you actually read the questions.

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9 points

Makes sense. What about those who click that option as a joke? Maybe discount all other replies from that person because of that too?

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11 points

I mean, fair?

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5 points

Or what if they don’t click it by joke, but because they actually prefer a 2x slower browser over such a feature?

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7 points

lol, yeah. 👍

I was doing a political poll just the other day and the third or fourth question was a color question like: “Which of the following is associated most with a ripe banana?”

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2 points

Eh, how ripe are we talking?

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11 points

I forgot those exist and interpreted it as “Would you sacrifice performance for one of these features?”

Am I stupid?

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4 points

I also thought it was a feature vs performance question. How can it be used as a control question?

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2 points

Mozilla might be insane

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That’s how I treated it too. I took it at face value.

I have modern hardware so I don’t care too much about browser performance. All browsers perform well on my hardware. Obviously some are more lightweight and optimised, but I have no doubts about my ability to comfortably browse the web on my hardware, so all the performance questions I tended to rank in the middle (ie not most or least important) as I don’t tend to notice browser performance.

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I debated because I really disliked another option in there (I think it was split-screen for AI or something stupid) and it felt like it was designed to make me not rank something else I didn’t like as least desired.

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6 points

Wait, I swear mine said twice as fast. Well I guess I got filtered then. Lol

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13 points

I had both.

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18 points

There were both

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9 points

It’s an Inferred importance method, as other users have commented it is likely that there are some calibration metrics in there. MaxDiff is the name of the approach if you want to check out more.

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20 points

For me that was together with

A privacy-respecting AI assistant that makes your browser smarter by learning how you use it

So I don’t really care how slow the browser is, as long as it doesn’t have an AI “assistant” that is monitoring my browser usage

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2 points

I wouldn’t mind an AI assistant, as long as it’s fully local.

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7 points

But why? If you want that, you can just have it outside of your browser. Or maybe get an extension that works with an AI assistant on your machine.

I honestly don’t care either way about an AI assistant. I don’t intend to use it, so I’d much rather their efforts be spent elsewhere.

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5 points

Why would you want that in a browser? We have LLMs you can run local.

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2 points

Yup, I stuck that as “least want.” I already marked “2x faster performance” as “most want” on another question, so hopefully it all shakes out in the end.

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3 points

You clearly missed the point about “privacy respecting.” It will only share data with Meta, Google and the US government.

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1 point

Mozilla is weighting on the data. They found people love AI more than a slow browser.

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How much AI do you want in your browser:

( ) None

( ) Zero

( ) I want my browser to automatically close any page that mentions AI

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51 points

Which of these options do you prefer:

( ) having an AI assistant integrated into the browser

( ) getting kicked in the balls by elon musk

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4 points

i guess daddy musk is coming to make my dreams come true

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6 points

Well, getting kicked in the balls is a one-time affair, and I’m done having kids anyway, so I’d go with that.

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11 points

A genuinely tough decision

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12 points

hi we’re the marketing team and we already decided what we want to do, and we can make up whatever data you want to see for us to justify it!

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8 points

More like

  • 2x slower browser

  • AI

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4 points

that question seemed directly made by some software dev that shares my opinion lol

i picked 2x slower browser over ai because at least if it is gonna be slower im not gonna be harassed by some amalgamation of every incel shitpost on the Internet

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15 points

All those features, and the only one I want is customizable hotkeys. Although I guess I’d also take “browser is twice as fast.”

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Which do you prefer:

( ) browser twice as fast

( ) women find you irresistible

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24 points

( x) browser twice as fast

( ) women find you irresistible

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3 points

Faster browser any day…

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