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Tldr of the source?

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I am all for helping the homeless but these numbers seem misleading. Now I want to see how much if they also get all of the amenities that come with prison. 3 meals a day and (shitty) healthcare.

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Housing - 10,050 Medicare average cost per beneficiary (2022) - 15,730

31065-10050-15730 = 5285 remaining for meals, three meals everyday for a year would be $4.83 per meal, low but doable. This assumes the government will be providing everything with no contribution from the individual. Lack of housing is probably the largest impediment to employment, no address or id for job apps, nowhere to shower and be clean, have clean clothes, etc. Addiction is another issue but safe stable housing would be a major help in getting clean as well. So some number of these people will be able to get back on track and start contributing to themselves and society at large.

I realized after typing I found Medicare instead of Medicaid, it varies by state but average cost per enrollee is 8651, so another 1400 is available in the equation.

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And that is probably on the low end. So even if we round up to $30,000, it’s still less. And the people are better off. I have been a homeless drug addict. It’s a rough life. The only reason I broke free from heroin/fentanyl addiction is because I went to prison. But I also wanted to quit. If someone does not want to quit, they won’t quit.

Thank you for taking the time to research and do the math. You are a good person.

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Well why don’t all the blue states band together and make it happen? In fact why haven’t they done it in the last 40 years or so? What’s going on? What are they waiting for? They have power and money to make it happen. They supposedly even have political will? It’s almost like it’s all talk and nobody wants to do it

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This is my question as well for a lot of issues and I think part of the answer must be that the democratic party as a whole just isn’t that “left” when the rubber meets the road.

Another thing is that the places where democrats have overwhelming political majority is major cities more often than states. So you might get BLUE cities existing in just kinda blue states which exist in a country that is only half blue on a good day. The city, where the most political will to implement very left policies exists, is constrained in its actions by state and federal law and state and federal budgeting constraints which the city can’t effect directly.

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Because society as a whole has to tackle this. What do you think the red fuckers would do? They’d start shipping bussess of homeless people into blue states.

There needs to be a federal incentive structure. Don’t want to take care of your homeless? No problem, no tax dollars for you, we’re sending it to the blue states that are doing something.

Of course this would have to pass Congress and the red fuckers will never allow that to happen.

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What? Why? Who gives a shit if you have 2x homeless instead of 1x homeless? Are you afraid to spend too much money? By calculations in this post we’d still be in the plus. Sounds like a bs excuse. Find another one.

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Spoken like a true child. You have failed to grasp the problem and you are obviously too ignorant to understand the solution. Grow up.

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Who cares? The tax payers will.

It doesn’t compute if half the country is sending the other half their homeless.

He’s right it takes everyone working together not half the country refusing to do anything but send people away and the other half having to find the funding.

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Sounds like a lame excuse for not doing the work. Why nobody requests it from their elected reps and city councils? Why nobody demands housing for homeless to be build in their neighborhood? Did you @SSJMarx petition your mayor to build something in your town?

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In my city the annual cost of a bed and support was about $80,000/year, not sure what’s different 😅

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Your city obviously decided to employ psychologists in a 1 to 1 ratio.

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People love paying extra for the cruelty.

At least in countries with shanty towns, the poor are allowed to live in squats. We don’t even give people that tiny grace. We don’t even give them free cheap cars to live in parking lots, or vouchers for mechanic repairs for the cars they live in. We’d have shanty towns if we allowed it. We just hide it rather than see how bad things really are.

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And those shanty towns often get mass transit services so the people can get to work.

In America (and Britain), towns specifically avoid serving very poor areas for fear that they might actually use it.

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Can’t allow competition for corporate landlords, could cut into their profits.

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