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So by historical analogy, they want to elect harris, have the chuds start a civil war about it, then have harris stop funding israel’s genocide as an exigency of that civil war somehow?

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Harris wins, Trump declares civil war, Israel recognizes Trump as president and sends troops, the US begins directing the MIC infinite weapons hose to Hamas and destroys Israel?

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Ok this made me internally chuckle twice

Once at the Trump “I declare… BANKRUPTCY. Shit, I mean, CIVIL WAR!” mental image

And second at the idea of Israel “sending troops” to the US. I don’t know why that’s so fucking hilarious. Probably because 80% of them would die in accidents on the way and the ones who managed to land would get shot by racist chuds who hear them speaking Hebrew or accented English and think they’re invading Arabs.

Like I’m just picturing that dumb fuck 5 star general, commander of… whatever titles they made up for him… the guy who gave the “tour” of the hospital showing “proof” that Hamas was embedded there and using it for military purposes. That guy landing on a beach in South Carolina, dehydrated, one of the few survivors and he sees the chuds rolling down the beach in an armored vehicle after they detected the incoming watercraft.

They’re shining blinding lights on him and over the megaphone demanding like

“Are you a Yankee? Are you with Kamala? Answer or we shoot!”

“No, no, friend! I have come to help fight KHamas! We have great army! Please, can I have some wa-”

“Did that big-head fucker just say he’s Hamas? Trump warned us about them! Open fire, boys!”

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Actually it’s kind of an apt comparison. They just don’t realize that Lincoln was never really anti-slavery and was only really forced into that position because the Republicans in the Northern states demanded it.

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“And that’s why you should always vote Democrat! We can push them left!”

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So they’re saying leftists should use the same tactics abolitionists used to pressure the state into ending slavery? Ah yeah it’s time!

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i seriously am struggling to understand what their position here is if it’s not “domestic terrorism is good fine and necessary but you ALSO HAVE TO VOTE”

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Although he already had a draft emancipation proclamation prepared, Lincoln responded with his own open letter to Greeley, which he published in the National Intelligencer in Washington, D.C. Lincoln stated plainly that the goal of his administration’s policies, including those related to slavery, was to save the Union. "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that." Lincoln carefully noted that this represented his official position.

Source: https://www.loc.gov/collections/abraham-lincoln-papers/articles-and-essays/abraham-lincoln-and-emancipation/

He was never the liberator libs make him out to be. He only wanted to free the slaves because it was the only way to prevent the Confederacy from seceding.

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And he had no interest in integrating these newly freed people into US society. He had some weird fixation about shipping them all off to some island or something so he wouldn’t have to deal with them, mentioning it several times even after being told it’s a bad idea

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Yup. Black people freed themselves from white people.

Lincoln just saw the opportunity to get more soldiers to prevent the collapse of the settler project.

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Isn’t that how Liberia originated?

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He only wanted to free the slaves because it was the only way to prevent the Confederacy from seceding.

Isn’t that what directly led to their secession though? Or do you mean it was the only way to rally the North to force the union back together?

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He needed soldiers to fight for the union to prevent the Confederacy from gaining a victory. In the link I posted, they said that Lincoln already had a draft of the emancipation proclamation ready before he published this letter.

His intention was never to free the slaves, but to preserve the union. One way to gain new soldiers was to declare the slaves of the Confederacy free.

The confederates wanted to keep slavery, the union freed the slaves. If you were a free slave in the Confederacy, who would you fight for? The side that just freed you, or the side that wants to keep enslaving you?

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I would refrain from posting in the community built around a person outed as a child pornography enjoyer, but I guess some people are different

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Ironically they are quite puritans for anyone except vaush

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