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trying to make a clumsy analogy and accidentally venerating John Brown in the process (which is the correct position).

also as far as I know Karl Marx congratulated Lincoln on the 1864 election not the 1860 election. By 1864 Lincoln had become more practically anti-slavery compared to his initial platform in 1860. Lincoln repeatedly proclaimed his position was to contain slavery, not eradicate it, but the horrors of the civil war probably changed his mind once he saw the stakes at hand. His 1864 platform included a proposal to end slavery by constitutional amendment.

what is this even supposed to be saying? That a vote for Kamala Harris is actually voting for a ceasefire in Gaza? Harris is currently responsible for a genocide and her platform is to continue support for genocide. She isn’t even proposing to limit, contain, or pressure Israel into stopping. She just had a meeting with Netanyahu and shook his hand like three weeks ago. A better analogy would be an alternate reality 1860 Lincoln as a southern democrat with a lifetime of lending aid to slave states, then ran for president in 1860 and said some wishy washy things about how he’ll wag a finger at slave owners. But he’s been personally selling whips, chains, and plantations to slave owners for decades. Then he invited the largest slave owners of every southern state to a big banquet and shook all their hands. And then I’m told by the 1860 version of Va*sh that Lincoln is actually an abolitionist, or that we can’t worry about slavery right now because of other things going on.

i wish these liberals would just come out and say they do not care about Palestinians. Like you could at least say Lincoln was proposing to limit slavery’s expansion, and he foolishly believed this would end slavery. Harris and Biden have no proposals whatsoever about Palestine other than give Israel more weaponry and aid. They’re not even pretending, they’re fiercely pro-Israel in a way that can’t be compared to Lincoln’s tepid, flawed incrementalism.

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Also he wrote it before 13 amendment was implemented so he probably imagined US abolition to be standard but alas.

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Yeah the Republicans were definitively the antislavery party but they knew they couldn’t legally end it under American federalism. At best they could limit and constrain the spread of slavery and chip away at it at the Federal level, which they knew when running. They were sort of feckless liberals unwilling to break or move outside of the system. Once Sherman had his march to the sea to show the norths resolve and the south was fully militarily occupied then slavery could be abolished fully in the union with the 13th ammendment.

Anyway, the analogy holds no water unless you’re politically illiterate.

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Libs are always like “don’t worry about the current genocide or the current war, the best time to put pressure on politicians is after they’ve won the election and there are zero conditions to get our vote. She needs to be free now to make promises to anyone about anything other than whatever it is we care about.”

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So by historical analogy, they want to elect harris, have the chuds start a civil war about it, then have harris stop funding israel’s genocide as an exigency of that civil war somehow?

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Harris wins, Trump declares civil war, Israel recognizes Trump as president and sends troops, the US begins directing the MIC infinite weapons hose to Hamas and destroys Israel?

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Ok this made me internally chuckle twice

Once at the Trump “I declare… BANKRUPTCY. Shit, I mean, CIVIL WAR!” mental image

And second at the idea of Israel “sending troops” to the US. I don’t know why that’s so fucking hilarious. Probably because 80% of them would die in accidents on the way and the ones who managed to land would get shot by racist chuds who hear them speaking Hebrew or accented English and think they’re invading Arabs.

Like I’m just picturing that dumb fuck 5 star general, commander of… whatever titles they made up for him… the guy who gave the “tour” of the hospital showing “proof” that Hamas was embedded there and using it for military purposes. That guy landing on a beach in South Carolina, dehydrated, one of the few survivors and he sees the chuds rolling down the beach in an armored vehicle after they detected the incoming watercraft.

They’re shining blinding lights on him and over the megaphone demanding like

“Are you a Yankee? Are you with Kamala? Answer or we shoot!”

“No, no, friend! I have come to help fight KHamas! We have great army! Please, can I have some wa-”

“Did that big-head fucker just say he’s Hamas? Trump warned us about them! Open fire, boys!”

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28 points

sigh

back in my day the funny clown hammer had a little more spice to it

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Just for you, you filthy animal

“Haha Tacoma is weepin-”

You have been bopped with a big funny clown hammer. You are going to the posting gulag for your crimes.

“Lol he said the n-word in a stream and-”

You have been bopped with a big funny clown hammer. You are going to the posting gulag for your crimes.

“lmao remember when he defended pedophilia by saying it wasn’t any more exploitative than making laptops-”

You have been bopped with a big funny clown hammer. You are going to the posting gulag for your crimes.

Making a post demanding others stop Vaushposting, and then realizing that you yourself have now Vaushposted

You have been bopped with a big funny clown hammer. You are going to the posting gulag for your crimes.

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That third bonk is… something.

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