cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18811470

The 92-page document will be voted on by delegates Monday evening.

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Of course not. That’s way too fine to tightrope for them to walk for it to be summed up in a platform at the convention. I hate that it’s that way, but it’s a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation for them. Therefore it’s an entirely numbers-based strategy, no matter what the actual may believe.

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Crazy. This was voted on by the delegates?

Are these the very same delegates who received their mandate as a result of the primary process in which Muslim voters overwhelmingly refused to submit even a single vote?

It’s almost as if you’re suggesting that refusing to participate in the democratic process means that your ideas will largely be discounted, as you bring literally nothing to the table in terms of political capital, but that just doesn’t seem quite right?

Look, I’m 100% for peace in Gaza & on earth more broadly, but you can’t refuse to return your RSVP and then act shocked that the host didn’t save you a place at the table.

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Genocide is not a special interest group issue.

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This is baby brain. Are you suggesting that the difference between a democratic party that supports the genocide and one that doesn’t is a LACK of pressure on them?

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Sorry, ad hominem attacks are not something I want to engage on today. Me and my baby brain will enjoy existing in the real world, enjoy your limited world view.

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Good. Fuck off, you genocidal piece of shit. You think not engaging with my interrogation of your position makes it go away to an outside reader instead of making it the last word?

Baby brain.

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If Trump wins and implements a federal abortion ban that includes giving police the power to monitor any woman moving across state lines, I really wonder if people like this author will feel indifferent about not voting. I agree with many of the points she’s making but as much of an unpopular opinion it is among leftist spaces, I can’t say I’m a fan of those who choose not to vote in the next election.

What I really don’t understand about the author is that she’s seemingly making no distinction between the Republican plan for Israel/Palestine and the Democrats’ plan for Israel/Palestine. Dems are so far from perfect but good lord, are we really going to sit here and pretend that under a Trump presidency he wouldn’t just give Israel free reign to kill as many civilians as they want? And is this the part of the discussion where someone claims that Biden has already done that, and that it couldn’t get any worse?

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Why would a leftist who is registered democrat give a shit about Trump? She isn’t trying to pressure trump to do anything, she isn’t voting for trump, she never supported trump and Trump has nothing to do with her goals. Further why have you spent any time whatsoever thinking about trump? It’s been 4 years, 4 years of the party you nominally support enabling genocide and you can’t even do the barest minimum to stop them from supporting that genocide?

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Genocidal fascists

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And I hate them for that… but funny enough I hate them less than the other idiots who want to dismantle my livelihood

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6 downvotes, 0 replies. If you disagree with this person, why not explain why?

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Haven’t downvoted anyone. Though also replied to none, as the reply about dropping both parties is sadly a pipe dream and didn’t need a reply, its essentially feeding whataboutism and just don’t care to engage.

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What would it take for you to reject both?

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Much like everyone else who shares that opinion, a viable third option that doesn’t throw the election to the right wing when you vote for it

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Voting in elections is literally the least engagement you can possibly have with governance without it being none at all. It’s okay to “throw your vote away” if you are actually engaged. You make more of a difference in one day than any vote you cast makes.

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So, nothing. You may not like the status quo, but you’ll continue to let genocide happen because you can’t vote it out, got it.

Plus, the Democrats are also right-wing, just not as right-wing.

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