Kamala Harris gets it. Yes, we should fear Trump—but we should also mock him mercilessly, because it drives him nuts.

Donald Trump is in free-fall. Read this description from Sunday’s Washington Post of how the GOP nominee spent last week: “[A]ides did not want a situation where he was watching the convention every night, getting angry, and then just golfing all day and stewing, according to people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private interactions. Trump also had grown annoyed with the news coverage that depicted him as not working as hard as his opponent, one person who talked to him said.”

If you didn’t know that the article was about Trump and you just read it cold without knowledge of the context, you might think it was a description of parents trying to figure out how to handle an ungovernable four-year-old. So they convinced Trump to get out of Bedminster and hit the road, trading suck-ups with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In the past, Trump has called Kennedy the “dumbest member” of the Kennedy family and a “radical left lunatic.” Kennedy has calledTrump a “terrible human being” and “probably a sociopath.”

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They still haven’t figured it out, ridicule still keeps his name in the news which feeds his ego. The best way to fight narcissists is to STOP talking about them. But to Democrats he’s a boogeyman gold mine that helps keep the duopoly in power.

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Doesn’t work. What narcissists actually do when you ignore them is make sure to insert themselves into more situations until you can’t ignore them.

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I disagree. There is no ignoring Trump between now and the election. If the Dems stop now, then the only messaging out there will be GOP messaging which can put a spin on his hissy fits and work to salve his ego.

He’s a weirdo and we shouldn’t let anyone forget it (until it’s time to forget him).

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That only works if you can get everyone to stop talking about them. Unfortunately, he has a large enough cult that someone will always be talking about him positively, so the only reasonable counter is to flood the conversation with mockery. Against a more well balanced candidate that would just rankle, but it’s really got under his skin, and under the skin of those who support him, so it’s proving to be a worthwhile tactic.

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The US news runs on clicks. His name gets clicks. So it’s gonna be in the news. Best Dems use that to ridicule.

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Um. Millinneals and zoomers figured this out the first time around, but they were too busy vote shaming us and squawking about emails to listen.

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You’re right! And also some of us gen xers did too, & never voted republican. & lots of boomers never turned their backs on their morals either. We didn’t get houses or careers or generational wealth…

It’s just really easy to pretend old people who aren’t rich don’t exist 🤷‍♂️But we sure fuckin vote . It’s the only power we have

& yeah we’ve been mocking this poopy pants Richie rich the whole time

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Seth Meyers and Obama scorched him long before all that. And even way back, SPY magazine was triggering him. That magazine was probably run by boomers.

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Trump has been ridiculed the whole time. The only people who treat him as a serious candidate are his supporters and the media. That was true in 2015, that’s true today.

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But having Obama bringing in the size of it’s dick is somewhat of a new situation.

It hilarious and I am sure this does hurt little Donny deep into his heart.

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You assume he has one to be hurt.

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That is not the impression I got as someone not from the US. I mostly saw scared and angry from democrats, and scared, angry or reverence from the news media. And that seems to be what he thrives on.

Ridicule came from stuff like the tv comedians and internet sources like YouTube… but these are easy enough to ignore.

Now that the ridicule is coming from the actual establishment, it cannot be ignored.

I find it very cool that the vile hatred, fearmongering and general dispicable behavior can be countered with joy, ridicule and a general cheerful demeanor.

Just the other day one of the GOP ghouls came out and actually said there is no joy… ROFL… they’re melting…

Now dial it up to 11 dems.

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Yeah, while there was mockery it didn’t come from ‘official’ sources. They called him serious names and didn’t ridicule him. They made it clear he was dangerous, but they also gave him respect like a serious candidate, contender, opponent, rival.

It probably would have worked from the beginning to just laugh at him, IF it was coming from the actual political establishment. If Clinton had essentially based her entire campaign around ‘hahah…oh wait you’re serious? Let me laugh harder.’ there’s a good chance he would’ve crashed and burned before ever getting off the ground, I think.

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You’re right. He has been mocked the whole time, and mockery isn’t the determining factor.

He has simply played out his power arc. The same mockery that didn’t land before now lands, because he’s on the downside.

Populism depends on emotional support from the people, but if you don’t have a framework that actually meets the peoples’ needs (or is effective at controlling them) you just rise as the restless populace tries you, then fall as they toss you aside.

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Mockery is a bad thing except maybe against actual totalitarian dictators (but then maybe their danger should be shown honestly, not mocked). Mocking people overrides rational arguments.

Also they mock whole nations when those are under threat. A lot of Nazi propaganda was mockery. A lot of Azeri propaganda is mockery of Armenians (when it’s Azeri-bought Russian and Ukrainian media, direct Azeri propaganda is more about threats and gloating than mockery).

A two-edged sword. In a situation where Trump can’t win an election, maybe they shouldn’t use such poisonous means.

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We tried that, and it is failing. We need to point out how incompetent and disgusting the GOP has become.

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What’s failing? Polls tell us otherwise.

And by the way, maybe they are competent. Maybe they are just fine with Dems winning the election.

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Back in 2016 it was “Trump is dumb, and there’s no way Republicans would vote for him”. We mocked him while underestimating his dumbass fanbase. Now we need to directly mock Trump’s policies and attitude toward the presidency and those who support them, and not make them appear as some powerful threat (even though they are).

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Nah. Democrats’ “mockery” are but gentle ribbing compared to the cuntish shit Trump spews daily.

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Trump’s output is just sewage, which makes it less harmful than something which is interpreted and repeated by rather intelligent people.

Let’s please remember that the Republican party was responsible for a pole of actually valid ideologies (something like “RFK minus mental impairment”), the worst effect they have is that those ideologies are not represented by anyone practically electable. What they replace them with is the second worst effect.

Mockery by its essence may very easily spill at those ideas.

Discourse in politics should be respectful. Even if it’s not that now. That’s not touching upon the possibility of degrading into a single-party system, seeing how GOP is sinking.

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