The emissions from the EV are largely because we’ve not yet gotten fossil fuels out of electric generation.

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my problem with those is that production is where most emissions are. we need them to be repairable and not disposable, and its not looking good how they are trying to turn cars into smartphones.

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And what about a normal sized EV?

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Even better of course. Not that there are many on the market in the US; automakers are increasing the size of every model.

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Doubtful. Smaller cars are more aerodynamic and much higher fuel economy.

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The same drop in energy needs applies to the EV too, along with sharply reduced emissions associated with manufacturing it.

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Please I just want a modern style electric bronco

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It seems like you’re putting form before function.

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I just would like something a little bigger than a kia soul, it’s so close to perfect for me I’d convert it if the bronco didn’t look a bit better

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There are a hundred different forms and they all function the same.
Wanting a specific form does not take away from function in this scenario.

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SUV’s with their extra weight, high suspension, and big, inefficient tires definitely take away from the function of an electric vehicle.

Aren’t we all in agreement that the cybertruck is a ridiculous, nonsense, piece of garbage?

Are you going to bring a trailer full of solar panels with you on your EV overlanding adventure? Where do you think you’re going to plug this thing in?

They don’t need off-road capability. They’re just going to drive a needlessly inefficient design to work and the grocery store because they like the way it looks.

Gasoline engines make way more sense for off-road capable vehicles.

The current state of electric vehicle tech is still better suited to vehicles that focus on efficiency.

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Lifetime vehicle miles traveled is 183,363 miles, and the assumed grid mix is the 2022 U.S. average in R&D GREET 2023.

EVs vehicle should last longer than that (though the battery will require replacement) so I think the EV production part will shrink.

Notice they break down the production and distribution of gas (not including the burning). Interesting.

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Yeah, refining some oil deposits involves absolutely huge inputs of methane to turn heavy oil into something that’s suitable for use in motor vehicles.

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Small electric SUVs? They exist?

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It’s called a cross over. Basically a large hatchback. It’s not a SUV if it’s not built like a truck, IE body on frame construction

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MG ZS for example

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They used to. GM had the Chevy Bolt and Kia had the Soul EV. The bolt is supposedly coming back, but I don’t have much faith that it will be small and economical like the previous version.

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“Small” is the non-monstrous size.

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