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I’m sure for Windows Pro this isn’t accurate. There’s no way a business could legally permit this, it’s a massive risk.

It’s probably just with Windows Home, and I’m sure O&O Shutup already handles it.

A Pro license is worth it just for Group Policy, which provides control over such things.

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Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating?

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I’m in healthcare, and it would be such a huge HIPAA risk if this was rolled out to our users. I’m interested to see what the company will do with this new information. We’re Enterprise edition so I’d assume they have ultimate control over it being on our computers.

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I can confirm that the west coast state governments are being extremely explicit about how, if this can’t be removed from LTSC/Enterprise, M$ will open themselves up for so many lawsuits that the sun will be blotted out.

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will be replaced with Linux

Maybe one day if Microsoft didn’t back down but in the interim they would simply put a hard block on updating.

But what actually end up happening is they would just be pressured to upgrade to Enterprise where you are permitted to have more control over windows.

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Going by the phrasing I’d say educated guess. I for one agree, it sounds like a massive liability when you have e.g. data protection laws to think about

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A Pro license is worth it just for Group Policy, which provides control over such things.

I’m currently able to buy Pro Win 11 licenses at a very expensive $7 LMAO

I used to say just pirate windows, but being cheaper than lunch meh. On top of that these licenses are just resold volume licenses so MS doesn’t even get the money directly from me so ehhhh

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I don’t know any business that uses Windows 11.

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You must not know a lot of businesses then. My company is on Win11 and most admin friends I’ve talked fo their company is on Win11

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Oh to live in a world where this is true, but it is not. It is demonstrably not.

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51 points

Why don’t they just make a proper OS without all that shit.

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Because it’s not about making a proper OS. The shit is the point.

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No, the point is to make a shit OS that the average users have to use, but the proper OS will be restricted to Enterprise and only configurable by Intune.

I’ve been saying it for years and years, ever since they took group policy out of the Home version: the point is to make admin access to your operating system a premium feature that is only affordable to businesses.

You know the Recommended section of the Windows 11 start menu? The one that cannot be removed?

You actually can remove that, if and only if you have an Enterprise version. The ability to remove that is not present in any other versions.

That’s the end game, right there.

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Had a discussion with a coworker regarding this, and about how seemingly unnecessarily adversarial MS has become with its users. At first you could choose to only have a local account. Then you had to use a magic key sequence and a command to only use a local account. And I think now even that possibility has been removed? And then there’s the forced default of us8ng one drive, copilot, cortana, and a bunch of other shit.

And as someone else said: The shit is the point. We concluded that MS realized that it’s lagging behind other companies such as Google and Apple when it comes to providing an ecosystem that the user grows dependant on.

And while this strategy could have worked, MS has failed to take three important factors into account:

  • Most of their users don’t care about an ecosystem. They just want to check their mail and run an installed program or two.
  • Many of their users are used to having their PC NOT be a part of an ecosystem.
  • MS ecosystem is absolute dogshit. The o365 is somewhat decent if you’rea corporate user, but anything else provided by Microsoft has a better 3rd party alternative if the user wants it at all.

The OS is not the product anymore. It’s just an attempt at getting you to use their other stuff so that they can lock you in. Why do you think you can now use unlicensed windows with no real downsides? 15 years ago your windows install would refuse to do the tiniest thing without a license, because back then, sell8ng licenses was the business plan. Now they’re selling services so that they can start selling you.

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I wish I could discuss things like this at work in a rational way. When I mentioned the Recall feature early on, he told me that sounded “like some tinfoil hat conspiracy theory stuff”.

I sent him a link to a news article that dumbed it down for him. Don’t know if he read it. Don’t care. But the point is, he is who MS is pandering to - the lowest common denominator, basically. The one who screws it all up for the rest of us and the reason we can’t have nice things.

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It sounds like tinfoil hat shit, because it’s just that shitty.

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anything else provided by Microsoft has a better 3rd party alternative if the user wants it at all.

Imo this is what has held microsoft back. They never really focused on the user market. All their software is pay-for-me bullshit offering promo prices for user tier education subscriptions that never retain users. Once you’re out of school you’re gonna cancel office sub, pirate it, or simply use google docs because everyone can use it without paying. Office is for businesses only.

Google lets you use their version of office without asking for any money. They give you storage that integrates with it and doesn’t nag you to subscribe or purchase a license to do things and they don’t nag you to use it. Their email is actually good, has good spam protection. You can use google mail for small businesses without issue too whereas hotmail or outlook.com look sketchy by comparison.

Microsoft has had so many missteps in their headlong charge believing they are the only game in town. Android has a bigger market share and a lot of people just use their phone as a computer today on a global scale.

In the US, Apple keeps gaining market share. iOS is the #1 operating system here but fairly neck and neck with windows. MacOS is a little under half of Windows too, so combined Apple is a big majority OS wise. Apple isn’t charging for updates on any of it’s OSes, unlike all of microsoft’s. The mobile hardware division makes way more money than laptops and desktops.

On a long enough of a timeline it seems inevitable that microsoft’s OS marketshare dominance will evaporate. It looks like only MacOS is here today as a realistic alternative since Linux is a steaming hot mess for end user computing.

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I would love to see a fly-on-the-wall, step by step, accurate documentary of exactly the series of meetings and communications that lead to these kinds of decisions.

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Imo this is what has held microsoft back. They never really focused on the user market. All their software is pay-for-me bullshit offering promo prices for user tier education subscriptions that never retain users. Once you’re out of school you’re gonna cancel office sub, pirate it, or simply use google docs because everyone can use it without paying. Office is for businesses only.

Feels like you missed the point.

Where do those users that graduate go? To work for a business. Microsoft gave them free software so they would become familiar with it when they then move into the business world. They don’t care if they use them outside of school or work, because they make money hand over fist with their business licensing.

outlook.com look sketchy by comparison.

In what world is this true?

Moreover most of the things that you just said about Gmail are true about the free tier for outlook.com. I don’t like having to say good things about Microsoft or Google but in this case you’re definitely wrong.

People are going to use Gmail because they’ve got to make a Google account for Android and YouTube anyway, and no one really cares enough about their iCloud email to use that. Moreover Chrome is still king, and it integrates there (whereas Outlook integrates with Edge).

Microsoft also cares very little what average users are using because they are making money from businesses primarily. Outlook is used the world over, just with custom domains.

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It’s more simple than that. You can only put so much bloat between a user and a command line.

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They do and it’s hard to acquire legitimately. Windows 11 IoT LTSC. Definitely don’t waste your time looking for it in massgravedotdev.

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MS expects return of investment for new Windows features. Don’t ask me why.

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Imagine if they invested $0 in this new feature. They could’ve had an infinite ROI.

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45 points

Man I’d really like to keep a windows machine around for just for easy gaming but at this point it’s too much of a liability.

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Not that big of a problem of all you do with it is gaming.

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Say you’re entering your cc info for an in-game item or a store. Does recall have a way to identify that as sensitive data?

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Good point. The Epic store does fuck up often enough that I keep having to reenter my credit card info.

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Supposedly, if you’re entering it on Edge. And only on Edge.

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Sorry, we no longer support PCs without onboard power generation and articulating limbs.

Don’t worry though. The limbs don’t actually move. The computer will just sit still. You can disable movement and manipulation of the physical world by opting out of movement.

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If you need Windows do yourself a favor and during the installation process choose a European country when it asks what language pack your want to use. I always used English (UK) even though I don’t live in the UK and never had to deal with the bullshit people keep talking about.

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What happens if you change it to the US after installation?

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No need to, keep it as is and adjust your regional settings to your liking.

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They said the same shit about Edge, I’m still able to rip edge out kicking and screaming and SURPRISE nothing of value is ever lost lol

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To be fair, Edge turned out be wildly successful, even surpassing iexplorer, when it comes to downloading other browsers.

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and also checking if the error you’re getting is your browser or the website itself!

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You had me in the first half, I’m not going to lie.

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