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Ok but bike lanes are just perpetuating the problem, which is that people need to travel too far to get to things. What we need is zoning reform, encouraging commercial construction in residential neighborhoods.

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I reject your premise wholeheartedly. Bike lanes are for bikes. Bikes are for any destination. Why walk for 10 minutes when I can cycle for 3?

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By all means, build the bike lanes. But my point is that itโ€™s like going vegan by ordering a salad with your steak. Adding bike lanes wonโ€™t make cities less car-centric.

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2 points

dancing is forbidden.

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21 points

Yes it will. How can it ever become anything else than car centric if you canโ€™t get around without a car? People need to go places, and bike lanes get them there without cars.

Iโ€™m really trying to understand whatโ€™s tripping you up here.

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5 points

Itโ€™s ok, I just block you.

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Additionally, when you build driving to be the only feasible option then those who cannot drive cannot get around. This includes but is not limited to the elderly, children, and those with disabilities.

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There are cycles available for almost every type of disability โ€“ itโ€™s actually an inclusive mode of transport that will often act as a mobility aid for people who find walking difficult, people who canโ€™t walk far and even those who cannot walk at all.

Evidence from the Netherlands (and increasingly from the UK, where new infrastructure has been built) shows that high quality cycling infrastructure is often shared with wheelchairs, mobility scooters and other assistive modes of transport.

And in general, cycling infrastructure should go hand-in-hand with other improvements to the physical environment too โ€“ like smooth, continuous footways across side roads, for example.

So in fact the truth is the opposite of the myth โ€“ cycling actually gives people with physical disabilities more transport options and independence, not less.

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2 points

Nonsense. I live in nyc and use my bike to get around to a lot of places. You basically canโ€™t get a city more dense and mixed commercial-residential than New York

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17 points

The point of a city is all the things that you can journey too. If you just want the things in your local neighborhood then you can find that in small towns in the middle of nowhere. However in a large city a short journey of beyond walking distance is the real goal. We need more bike lanes and public transit!

We need zoning reforms because people shouldnโ€™t have to get to go far to get the basics (milk or whatever your culture sees as basics). However that doesnโ€™t change any need for getting people around.

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I think youโ€™re being down voted bc of your bike statement, but you are correct that zoning changes are required. It is a multifold solution. If you live in suburban hell and need to commute 20 miles to work as a result, the community wonโ€™t adopt cycling as much as a community that has mixed zoning that puts commercial and residential closer together and residents can walk or bike.

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3 points

Putting up protections on a bike lane is drastically quicker, they are nowhere near the same time scale.

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-13 points

just widen the sidewalks a few feet and let them ride there.

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7 points

Bikes donโ€™t belong on sidewalks. Dangerous for pedestrians and cars canโ€™t see the cyclist as well

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Now if we could just teach this to the general population. The number of times that Iโ€™ve gotten yelled at to โ€œget off the road and use the sidewalkโ€ has me prepared to make a wearable โ€œshare the roadโ€ sign.

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1 point

I have also considered building a battery power car horn for my bike to honk at cars. Not practical, but conceptually funny.

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Hey New York, howโ€™s it going now that youโ€™ve killed the plan for congestion pricing in Manhattan?

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17 points

Bus and Train service into the city can easily pass $15 round trip even with monthly passes. It was so infuriating to have to listen to people who already pay $600+ for a garage already crying about having to pay $15. If you live in New York City you know the area they wanted to tax has almost no parking before 7 pm except for commercial vehicles, and it is $5+ an hour (based on area, and increasing in cost by how long you stay) to even do that. And to make it worse was how many of those upset would be people from Upstate and New Jersey who only come to NYC 2x a year if that.

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30 points

What the fuck is this

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20 points

I think this game is called car jam mania or something like that. The cars canโ€™t turn and you have to figure out how to get them out before the timer runs out and the cops show up to start issuing citations. The more citations get handed out the lower your score :(

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11 points

I donโ€™t believe this is real and not a still from a zombie outbreak movie.

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6 points

Its real life free the red car

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26 points

Parking spots = parking meter and parking fine revenue

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30 points

Not for Chicago it doesnโ€™t ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜โ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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6 points

I guess any fines you donโ€™t pay to Morgan Stanley kina look like revenue if you squint

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4 points

Okay, now explain all the free spots?

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Bike lanes are proven to increase revenue for businesses in their vicinity. Car parking takes up valuable space in a city which could be used more productively.

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I agree but try convincing local politicians of that. They just see immediate revenue disappearing, no long term gains.

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There are some politicians that will listen, so consider joining a bicycle advocacy group if your town has one. Failing that, guerilla urbanism is an option.

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21 points

Many places just lowered the speed limits so they could narrow the lanes and then put in the bike lanes and kept the parking. Or get rid of left turning lanes or make alternating streets one way so left turning lanes arenโ€™t needed.

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This is a great way to do it too! Many streets even have a 40km/h speed limit but are built wide enough to accommodate 80km/h, so drivers often speed and increase fatalities.

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