I don’t see how this is legal, but people on Tik Tok peddling miracle “medicine” are becoming more common every day. No FDA approval, no research. Just their marketing hype and false promises. This one, lady is showing some sort of probiotic and claiming it can help people suffering from severe acid reflux and gastrointestinal reflux disease or GERD, replacing medicine that has been tested for decades.

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This was all made legal in the Dietary Supplement and Health Education Act of 1994.

Before that, everythimg required FDA approval, but now if it says “natural” or “not intended to treat any condition” on the side, you can bottle and sell your own piss if you’ve got a good enough sales pitch

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The important takeaway from this is that “supplements” have 0 oversight. The CBD, probiotics, vitamin d, etc that you buy could just be capsules of vegetable oil that does nothing at all. Or they could be asbestos and cyanide for all you know (that probably would lead to an investigation though). There’s also no safety regarding packing and handling, so it might literally be a guy with unwashed hands who just picked his butt loading your gelcaps in a dirty bathroom that someone just took a massive shit in. No one checks and verifies any of this and that’s why shills and hucksters jump onto this shit, it’s a completely unregulated market where can cut corners everywhere and say whatever you want as long as you include *not intended to treat any diseases and not evaluated by the fda

A $1200 thing you buy on instagram that sends “good waves” to your brain? Supplement. The cbd you buy at the gas station? Supplement. Doterra oils? Supplement. No regulation, no oversight, just robbing people based on their desperation to fix chronic pain and mental illness

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So the CBD thing really bugs me, in particular.

One of my medications has one of those warnings about how you can’t have grapefruit while taking this medication. That’s because grapefruit is metabolized on a certain enzyme pathway that gets interrupted. That enzyme pathway is CYP3A4.

You know what else takes that enzyme pathway? Fucking CBD. It also blocks the enzyme pathway, making any drugs administered less effective because they can’t bind to where they need to because the CBD molecule is already there, taking up space.

So like, for me, these are life saving medications so fucking around with this is really stupid but literally no doctor told me this. I accidentally figured this out while doing research on CBD. It seems like its becoming more publicized now, but the bottom line is this:

If you have medication that warns you that you should not eat grapefruit with this medication (about 60% of medications, I believe), that medication needs the same warning about CBD.

https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/cannabidiol-presents-conundrums

Upon further evaluation, it was shown that CYP3A4 and CYP2C19 are the 2 major enzymes responsible for the metabolism of CBD; they are also responsible for the metabolism of many different drugs.

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It only makes prodrugs that first need to be metabolized by CYP3A4 to be active less effective. This is a pretty small minority of drugs. It makes drugs that are inactivated by CYP3A4 more effective, which is the majority of them. It also only competitively inhibits the enzyme while the drug is in your system, it’s not permanently inhibiting the enzyme like a suicide inhibitor.

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so grapefruit can either increase or decrease your metabolism rate of some drugs. It doesn’t just block it entirely.

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You can actually find small bottles of water on Amazon marketed as a miracle cure.

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You can even find radioactive shit sold on Amazon as health products. So radioactive, that it can incur the wrath of federal agencies.

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Just stay away from nearly anything that uses “healing ions” in its marketing material. If it’s not a straight-up fake product, it’ll likely kill you in due time. (Ozone generators are an exception unless you get a beefy one like mine, and then it can actually kill you.)

Edit: lol! I have seen that video and made my comment about ions before I clicked it. Good video, btw. 5 stars.

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Wow. You’d think “natural” would be more heavily regulated since a lot of people consider it to be a synonym for “harmless” (I am not one of them)

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That probiotic is nice and all, but it’ll never beat apple cider vinegar. That stuff cures everything. Especially if you take it with silver.

Seriously though, this is just the latest venue for this kind of bullshit.

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Excuse me putting an onion in my grandfather’s sock overnight cured him of death twice

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I hope you don’t take the onion from his belt.

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it was too yellow

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Personally I’m a fan of Smurf Juice brand colloidial silver.

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I blued myself.

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For nothing

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Should I take this with my nightly mercury eye drops?

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You’re supposed to put a link to where we can buy your miracle vinegar/silver mix in your post. Have you learned nothing from these marketing geniuses?

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My bad.

https://127.0.0.1/C$/%userprofile%/Documents/EXCEL.ppt

If that doesn’t work give Derek a call.

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It was weird that it needed my social security number, bank account, mother’s maiden name, and the name of my first pet to make the order but I guess it was worth it to stay healthy. Thanks bud!

O, and tell Derek I said hey.

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Influencer = Sales person

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Ehh more like marketing. But clearly pushing snakeoil in this case.

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Marketing is ensuring your product offering matches what people want.

I don’t see how an influencer pushing a particular probiotic product fits this

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We’re getting dangerously close to social media apps where you scroll through ads and only ads. Maybe we’re already there…

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My Facebook and Instagram are now >3/4 stuff that I didn’t follow. Not all are explicitly advertisements, but they aren’t things I wanted to see. That’s why I’m moving to federated services. Just wish I could convince more of my friends and family to move over. I use Lemmy as a replacement for Reddit so it’s more widely social, but the other stuff I only really used for friends, family, or special interest groups.

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Man am I glad I killed my FB back In 2012 when it was mostly pictures of peoples babies and people acting like hating Obama was a personality trait

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i stopped using Instagram not long after realizing every 3rd post was an ad, and most of the actual content were not from people i followed. i don’t miss it.

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Congress needs to give the FDA the power to regulate supplements goddamn yesterday.

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They had it and it was taken away in the 90s

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Thanks, Sen. Tom Harkin.

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And Mel Gibson. When they were lobbying to get rid of the regulations, the supplement industry did commercials that had Mel’s home getting raided by SWAT-looking guys for having supplements.

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Best we can do is ignore everything while random judges give themselves power to override the FDA whenever it causes inconvenience to corporations.

— Congress

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Yeah. The peddlers of homeopathic crap are the first ones that need to burn.

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So many laws would have to change, and the FDA would need about 1,000x the people and money. I’m all for it, but it’s an unsolvable problem. If it is something taken orally, including food, it can basically only ever be a reactive response to people dying.

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