You can’t even get probably the equivalent graphics card in there for less than $700. I still think PCs are more expensive.
Plus case, motherboard, CPU, memory, storage, power supply,and keyboard/mouse.
Does it have to be equivalent? There are plenty of builds that will work just fine for gaming, they just aren’t 1440p or 4k, or 120hz.
There’s also that these computers can do a lot more than just game, so while you’re not getting “top of the line” graphical fidelity from your console, you can actually use it to browse the web, or run some software in your home.
Then there’s also the fact that if you want to play online it requires you pay a subscription. So even just the $10 a month for the subscription is $120 a year for every year you didn’t buy a PC instead.
So, are PC’s really more expensive, or is it the fallacy of needing the absolute best and then paying out the nose in after-ownership fees for the entire duration you own the console?
Steam Deck all the way. Also Sony’s been shit since at least the 2011 hack.
You can also get PC games from all kinds of sources and sales that ultimately are far cheaper than the pithy Playstation sales. It greatly offsets costs over time.
You also have far more backwards compatibility and flexibility especially to do things with controller profiles and mods, etc.
Not to mention in 5 years you can replace one part on the pc and increase performance.
You don’t need to upgrade every part every time
While this is technically true, in practice I’ve found there’s always something the old PC is missing, tech wise.
Socket change. Ram version change. New version of PCIe.
Effectively you need to do mobo/cpu/ram all together.
The only other components are GPU and storage, which I agree are generally transferable, but depending on age you may want to upgrade too.
I guess PSU but that is thankfully something you almost never need to upgrade, unless your new GPU sucks down a lot more watts.
Maybe if I had an AM5 board I would be in a better state, but currently on AM4 so my upgrade paths are limited (already on a 5000 series chip).
Yes but, in practice some of these things don’t matter much at all. At that point you’re looking at the performance stack a bit too deeply.
Look at the bigger picture. For example - an RTX 4090 can perform about as well on PCIe 3.0 as it does on 4.0 in most tasks that you’d likely use it for.
You don’t have to care about some of these things as much as you used to before. Sometimes you can get too deep into hunting the best version of your system before you realize that it really doesn’t make that much of a difference.
all kinds of sources and sales
Looks at steam library with dozens of unplayed games purchased on sale
Some steam games I have gotten for as little as 0.25 to 0.50 before. I’m fine with unplayed games. Or some games I try out for a few hours and move on. Ehh, it’s fine. But I almost am never spending dozens of dollars, much less full price. Hell, a lot of games are on discount on sites like Fanatical before they even launch.
I have also noticed PC gets patches much more quickly and often than console games. So when that matters, it’s kind of nice.
Most recently, a party-based single player game I love on its PC port has an experimental co-op built in which has been a ton of fun, and that’s just not happening on the console versions.
Maybe I’m too Canadian to understand but where on earth are you able to build a decent gaming PC able to play the latest AAA games on high graphics for $700?
No really, please tell me. I want to upgrade my PC.
Edit: For everyone trying to explain it to me.
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There’s more to a PC than a CPU and GPU. Those of you giving me only those 2 that make up more than half of the $700 are kind of reinforcing my point.
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The key thing here is running AAA games on high settings using this budget. You can’t really do that.
Assume someone is already going to buy a Chromebook for $200-300. Why not spend $900-1000 on a nicer laptop or desktop and need a console at all?
And if you’re a certain age, why invest in an ecosystem that will die with the next hardware iteration, when you’ve seen it happen over and over? I bought a cartridge of Super Mario Bros 3 in 1993 with my birthday money. Why should I have to buy it again, ever, if I still own the cart? Why not invest in an ecosystem that’s by and large always backwards compatible?
I think this article is sensationalizing the situation a bit. It could be $700 (if you already have a case, hdds, psu, and cooling on hand.)
But really comes down to your desired resolution and frame rate. I know plenty of people who are fine with 1080p and 60fps.
1440, 2160 120 is another story. The higher end gpu would likely require a slightly higher tier PSU and more efficient cooling which could add a few bucks to the GPU and CPU investment.
I recommend checking out PC part picker to see what your ideal components would shake out to.
I mean you can build a 2k gaming PC for under $700. I think the only games on PS5 that’ll be running at 120fps will be the anything shooters that’ll run at 250fps on a toaster.
Random “$700 PCPP” search. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8PmJZJ
It’s something. B450M is about as low as you can go, and not sure i’d go with ddr4 or WD green for storage, but it would definitely be a PC.
(if you already have a case, hdds, psu, and cooling on hand.)
You can also get all of those except the hdds for quite literally 0 dollars, although depending on electricity prices and what upgrading you want to do it might be better long term to spend on the psu.
The PS5 Pro is a decent value compared to a PC. It’s just not an amazing value like the original PS5 was in 2020.
Take PCPP’s Entry Level AMD Gaming Build. Upgrade it to a 2TB NVME and a RX 6800 GPU. That’s $830. https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/NtFfrH/entry-level-amd-gaming-build
That’s pretty similar specs to the PS5 Pro (with a better Zen 3 CPU, but minus a gamepad).
the PS5 pro uses 60 CU rdna 4, so if you want to match that, buy the supposedly rumored 8800XT that amd is trying to pump more of as they forgoe top end end generation supposedly (basically similar to the RX 480 and RX 5700xt generations)
keep in mind, console and pc sales and cost differ because of where they focus on making money. Sony for example makes money off accessory sales (the ps5 pro is disk driveless and no vertical stand) ontop of never adressing the rampant stick drift problem the dualsense has, ontop of paid online, none of which is any signicant factor on PC, which generally speaking is more front loaded cost heavy but overtime has lower cost in games, services and such.
You won’t be able to do ultra, but you can do high at 1080p30fps in most every modern game pretty easily for that price. 1080p 60fps for a solid chunk of them too.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MzFVh3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6coMhaOw0Q
Your point still stands though; you’re still better off spending 1000$ so that you don’t end up shooting yourself in the foot with regards to upgradeability, which is one of the big reasons people want a PC in the first place.
That’s still better than consoles can run most native games too lul. People always use the argument that consoles ‘just work’ at max graphics as a selling point when it’s rarely the case. Almost every new game has issues on release that need to be fixed and even after some never run at max.
You could probably build something decent for CAD$1000. Canada computers often have massive discounts on a lot of items. US$700 to CAD$1000 is not that far apart. The console would probably still be more performant but the point is, the prices are not that far apart anymore.
With exchange it’s closer to $950 cad, best bang for your buck is probably used. Quick glance at kijiji and I saw some 3070tis for sub $400, heck if you’re fine with slightly older hardware just saw a ryzen 3700x + 2070 super, ram, full system honestly for $650 cad. You’ll probably get quite a bit of mileage out of that CPU, I ran with a 3rd gen i5 for nearly a decade
Paying $700 for a locked system is crazy.
Well, it is a gradient
Consoles are only a few rungs further down on the freedom ladder than a Windows PC. Both are somewhere near the bottom.
Answer: A Windows PC + all of the consoles + all of the handhelds + both major mobile device brands.
It just depends on how much you’re willing to sell your soul… in order to amuse yourself.
You sure? Last I remember the “crazy” quota was paying $999 for a monitor holder branded by a fruit (a bitten fruit, not even a whole one).
Joke aside, the most amusing thing, is that you have to pay $700 for a device attached to your TV, then if you want to check a website you have to resort on your smartphone or whatever shitty browser is integrated in your “smart” TV… because PS5 don’t have web browser support!
because PS5 don’t have web browser support!
That one’s pretty easy though. Browsers are a HUGE attack surface for jailbreaking. It’ll happen eventually anyway, but I can’t say that I’m surprised
That’s not how the enforce security works. You’re either capable to secure the device without removing basic functionality, or don’t.
Xbox has a browser, as any iphone/ipad out of there. If the only way for Sony to keep security is cripple functionality; it doesn’t mark their device as valuable at all
(additionally, with proper web browser support you can play web videogames without have to pay Sony: would you say this also apply to Sony’s choice to remove web browser?)
It also costs $468.68 over 7 years with the 12 month plan.
So it’s really $1168.68.
I’m just going to hang out over here with my (modded) PC games from the early 2000s that I love so much…
Modern AAA gaming is not for me.
