Considering tomatoes aren’t even from Europe the Italians can think whatever they want about pizza, they’re not experts, they’re just as wrong as everyone else.
And that’s why, as a Midwesterner, I proudly put black olives on my tacos. And it’s tastes pretty damn great!
Preparing that yourself or are there places where you can buy pickled watermelon?
As long as you aren’t putting cheese or sour cream or using those hard shell things I guess it could pass
A plain slice in NY, maybe with some red pepper flakes and parmigiana. Fuckin bliss.
NY style pizza also isn’t anything particularly amazing. New Yorkers are just louder about it, like with everything they do.
NY pizza fucking sucks. You want real pizza, go to Chicago. Everyone knows deep dish is where it’s at.
Yeah I said it. Fight me.
For the whole thing: https://youtu.be/pzXIpp59eoU?si=CVP2J6aM3INbf7WG
It’s fucking soup with cheese that’s so covered in sauce it will never reach any level of golden brown delicious, nor even be able to dream of it. It’s such a US thing to think that more is better while annihilating all the nuance that makes the thing actually good in the first place.
A deep crust is fine, just put more in it and put that cheese on top where it can really shine. Fill that bad bitch with all kinds of great stuff. Use more than the most basic, one-note pizza sauce.
I was so hyped for deep-dish and it let me down so fucking hard.
It’s not about being right, it’s about making something that tastes good. Besides that, there are also well established cultural traditions. But as long as people call their garbage pizzas “NY pizza”, or whatever and it’s well distinguished by “Italian pizza” (or Neapolitan, etc.), I don’t see the problem.
There’s a lot of things to argue about, but pizza just isn’t one of them. It’s a chunk of bread with leftovers on it. If it tastes good on pizza, it belongs on pizza; and what tastes good on pizza depends on the tongue probing it.
Pineapple… sausage… anchovies… goat cheese… potato chips… a fucking strawberry slurpee - if you like it, you rock it.
The only wrong option is to abstain from making/ordering the pizza you want because that ingredient doesn’t ‘belong’ there.
For what is worth, that’s not how (most?) Italians think about pizza. It’s not a “container” in which you put a bunch of things, but each pizza type is basically a separate dish.
I personally don’t care what people put on their pizza, I simply avoid places that make “pizzas” in a non-italian fashion, like the american (supposedly NY style) ones where you get crust, 2 fingers of industrial cheese and a whole plant of oregano.
It’s very similar for pasta, which many people think as a bread replacement.
This is why their pizzas are so boring. One or two toppings. Come on, get creative with it, Guissepe.
Most of Italian recipes are very simple. The focus usually is on quality on the ingredients and if they are good, a pizza with just mozzarella and tomatoes is already delicious. That said, even in Italy there are plenty of types of pizzas, but most of them don’t have 20 ingredients, I suppose the point is that you actually want to taste what you eat, which is not the case when you mix many different things. There is a very messy and rich pizza (capricciosa) with a lot of toppings though (more than one obviously, but this is the most common).
Personally I am a margherita person, simple and boring is perfect, as long as it tastes great.
P.s. Giuseppe :)
That’s cuz you never had a proper napolitan pizza you uncultured swine. You’d never open your mouth about pizza again, or call anything you can buy in your America a pizza.
Imagine you couldn’t try new things how stale or diet would be today.
I despise this traditional “that doesn’t go on that dish” bullshit.
It was that way with the food where I’m from and well and now the new generation is doing whatever they want with those traditional recipes and making them modern and it’s amazing. If you don’t like pineapple on your pizza don’t have it. But shut the fuck up with your “that’s not a pizza”. You sound like my great grandma
Edit: I’m from El Salvador and people used to freak out if you suggested that pupusas should have more variety than just pork, cheese and beans. They’d yell at you that it wasn’t traditional. Now the young generation is making pupusas with chicken, fish, shrimp, sweet potato, zucchini, and so on, and it’s amazing!
the worst is when people are like this for a dish that was invented as a way to use the shitty limited ingredients of the area because everyone was poor and that’s all they had back then. That’s not even tradition. Or slightly less annoying is when people try your traditional dish from the country your family comes from and say its not correct in some way, but they are from one of the 6 neighboring countries with pretty much the same food but the name is spelled slightly different and have regional plants as seasoning instead.
That’s not even tradition.
Ehhhh, you might not like most traditions then.
I don’t really see being poor as a tradition. I’ve seen enough people present racism as a tradititon and I don’t like that either. My dad has been facebook’d and keeps wanting to do ancient medicines because “the government took them away from us”, and has asked where to get some definitely dangerous substances. There are indeed a lot of things people call tradition that I don’t like.
I don’t think changing a couple ingredients breaks tradition when most old recipes were just throwing whatever we had together and trying to make it at least minimally enjoyable for bonus points. I guess it’s different for wealthy people in the past much like it is now, but if it could be improved cheaply or for free when it was new either due to ingredients or skills and knowledge, everyone would have done it. Some things were probably also just good enough that nobody bothered changing it, but now most people are conditioned to really high sugar and salt or just stronger flavour in general.
Actually one of my time travel fantasy wishes is to see people in the last eat the modern versions of their favourite food. I’d feel bad about shocking their systems with large doses (to them) of microplastics, pesticides, and who knows what else though.
In Poland, some people put fruit juice in their beer (piwo z sokiem), and it is fucking delicious
Fruity beer is also common in Belgium. It’s not mixed with juice but is already flavored in the bottle as you buy it. And yes, it’s delicious. Kriek for instance is a pretty famous cherry flavored beer.
Also non-alcaholic beer mixed with juice is a pretty decent drink after sports. The slight bitterness and the bubbles makes it really refreshing on hot days.
It’s not about a flavoured beer - there’s plenty of em. This is about a concentrated form of juice you usually dilute in water. You put it into beer, it turns reddish-pink and a lot of people preffer to drink it that way
Pubs in the UK used to (or still do?) have blackcurrant and lime cordial for this.
“Lager and Lime”, “Lager and Blackcurrant” and “Cider and Blackcurrant” were pretty common 20-30 years ago. A shot of cordial (concentrated juice), then filled up with lager beer.
There was also orange cordial behind the bar, but nobody ever drank “Lager and orange”. I believe it was some form of crime.
