So, where exactly are smokers supposed to smoke then when pretty much everywhere indoor smoking is already banned??
At home, in private lodgings and dedicated smoking areas.
This is one thing once more which would be a non issue if it weren’t for the people who throw their stubs everywhere and blow smoke in the faces of others.
But how are you supposed to smoke at home when smoke detectors are required by law already and cigs keep setting them off? Not everybody lives in a gaff with a balcony or in a house with a garden behind.
Plus, I don’t like smoking at home either. Just glad I got a balcony for that.
That’s the neat part, you’re not supposed to smoke at all.
They can’t ban cigarettes outright, yet. But they can make sure it isn’t publicly visible, cool, or easy to do anymore.
Smokers are supposed to be forced into enclosed, limited rooms just for smoking, separating it from all other activities.
The goal is to break the cycle that gets young people to start smoking.
Sounds like shitty smoke detectors to me.
I used to smoke heavily for years, was always too lazy to go out on the balcony, sometimes forgot to open the windows for days and my detectors only went off once when I vaped so heavily my apartment looked like a disco dance floor (from fog machines).
Smoke detectors don’t respond to cigarette smoke, unless you cram one smoker per m² in a room and have them all smoke half a pack, with all windows shut.
I have seen indoor parties at flats with smoke detectors, which never went off, despite heavy smoking indoors. Meanwhile something burning on the stove set off the detector, as it should.
Are smokers “minding their own biz” when I walk through a cloud of nasty carcinogens they they made?
I would, but there are those asshats smoking near buildings forcing me to inhale their shit.
Where heroin addicts supposed to shoot some smack in their veins?
While they also look unpleasant, at least I am not forced to inhale their shit.
Frankly if smokers were more considerate I wouldn’t be that bitter.
You don’t need to announce every time you’re blocking someone, it’s a bit obnoxious to all the readers. I’m not going to moderate the insults at the moment but this thread is on the verge of being locked or whatever… and this is not meant to you. Everyone should try keeping it a little bit more civil. Chill, this is just a bit of news, no need to start a war between smokers and non smokers.
The article says the focus is on kid-friendly outdoor areas like parks and near schools, which makes total sense as a place to start. Doesn’t seem like it’s everywhere outside being banned. And generally encouraging people to not take up smoking in the first place is wonderful. For people who smoke, quitting is the biggest thing they can do to improve their health.
As much as I like the idea of getting rid of smoking altogether, this is a huge infringement on self-determination. Sure, go ahead and declare certain public areas as non-smoking zones. I’m absolutely fine with that. Even if it means that the entire inner city is such a zone. No one should have to inhale secondhand smoke. But if you’re somewhere where you don’t bother anyone, why should that be illegal?
Even if you’re alone, where are you throwing the butt? The answer is: the ground. The ground is absolutely full of cancer sticks. And I see the city’s cleaning machines clean the entire streets at least once a day. It’s still full of the things.
The only way to get Europeans to stop smoking outdoors is to get rid of all the Europeans
Cigarettes, sure, but including ecigs sounds unreasonable? I quit smoking couple of years ago and regular cigarette smell makes me gag but Iqos and liquid vapes are not that offensive outdoors.
I find lots of things annoying outdoors but I guess it’s not so common here to become an issue. Ecigs users are usually conscious enough to keep distance from other people. I hear it’s getting pretty bad with disposable vapes but haven’t seen much of that myself, likely a perk of not living in a big city.
It is not about annoyance it is about ease of consumption and indirect smoking which kills.
Seems like it’s more about discouraging any tobacco use, rather than how unpleasant it is to others.
To be fair, ecigs don’t use tobacco. They may have nicotine added to the liquid, but no tobacco.
Wasn’t aware of that, so thanks for pointing it out, but yeah, what it’s really about is the nicotine. They want fewer people addicted.
Honestly I hate clouds of strawberry hitting me even more than regular cigarette smoke
Especially considering that every molecule of that sickly strawberry smoke was just inside that guy.
Huge reason no one goes to cinemas anymore is cuz you can’t vape in there as freely as you can at home.
I assure you, as someone who doesn’t smoke or vape, that is not the reason I don’t go to cinemas.
On the contrary, being trapped in a room with dozens of smokers or vapers would further discourage me from going.
fuck yes.
