So you don’t think these patents are going after any aspect of Palworld that players would recognize as a defining feature of a Pokémon game?

I mean, there’s like a mechanic where you throw the spheres, right? And this is a very obvious, in your face system [that’s very much like Pokémon]. But I think that it will be a lot more technical than this. Nintendo would have dug through every single action inside the game, they would have probably reverse engineered it, and just find ways to sue these guys.

You can bet your life that Nintendo hates this company, and they couldn’t find an angle with the character designs. This is why they are not mentioned in their press release. So they come with these technical peculiarities. So I personally believe, if you act like this, you can sue like 90 percent of the game developers in the world. I’m sure there’s like thousands of games that have a confirmation screen when you go from sleep mode to resuming the game right, but if you basically trigger the wrath of Nintendo, they will come after you.

129 points

This is not business. This is extortion. Palworld has opened a can of worms with a realization that gamers don’t need Pokemon anymore. There can be better alternatives.

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I mean, the bar is on the ground at this point at best.

It was a painful process, having my love of Pokémon games slowly stripped away until I finally gave up on them. It’s hard giving up on something that you’ve loved from childhood. Pokémon used to be my comfort game and it’s now unplayable trash.

The only reason I still have my Switch at all right now is the Zelda franchise because I currently lack the means to emulate. And the occasional sale item from the eShop because I’m not paying full price for a Switch game ever again after they ruined Pokémon.

I’m surprised no one’s brought up the hellscape we know as the Nintendo eShop. It’s >90% trash.

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25 points

Plug for the game cassette beasts! An excellent monster collecting game that feels like a natural progression from early Pokemon

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2 points

Shhh! Don’t alert Nintendo.

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14 points

Valid competition vs a super corpo that milked the cow dry. Of course their going to be evil about it.

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10 points

If Nintendo actually wins this, I will - as someone who grew up with Pokémon - destroy them as a company. I will slander them into submission if I have to, fuck them if I can’t even have a circus to go with my bread.

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“No bread, no cake, no circus.” - Nintendo

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1 point

who made ni no kuni?

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Level-5

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Nintendo is one of the worst companies in the videogames world. They need to fail, and I really hope this next switch becomes something worse than WiiU and they disappear from the world.

However, they won’t. Their fanatics won’t let them. So I can only hope they double down in their anti consumer behaviour to screw as many customers as they can. Because honestly? If after all these years you keep buying a Pokémon game, you deserve to be scammed and abused as a customer.

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They need to fail, and I really hope this next switch becomes something worse than WiiU and they disappear from the world.

However, they won’t. Their fanatics won’t let them.

Nintendo is famously one of the most cash rich companies out there. A fiscal report from last year indicated they had USD$9 billion in liquid assets.

Nintendo isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and it has very little to do with whether or not fanatics “let them”.

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Well, I mean, if they are that rich, I’m partial to thinking that it’s their fanatics’ fault buying every shit they release. If a Pokémon game, being as bad as they are, keeps selling in the millions, nobody but their customers is to blame.

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The point their making is that Nintendo has a bigger cash vault than most actual banks.

Unless money itself stops being money, they are sitting on a cash-pile so big they could ride out several financial crises by just… Doing nothing.

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6 points

Yeah I kinda doubt that…

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My hot take is that even before they flushed their goodwill down the toilet, they were a mediocre company. “Here, buy our 500 dollar console with graphics worse than your phone so you can play the Mario game that we added a magic hat to.”

Worst and most expensive products in the industry.

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23 points

Show me a platformer as good as Mario Odyssey not counting A Hat in Time, and I might stop buying from Nintendo. Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are great games too. Saying that they don’t offer anything valuable is misguided.

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You have to buy their shitty overpriced console to play those. The value nosedives.

And psychonauts 1/2 are right there.

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Mario Odyssey is just Mario 64-2. New gimmicks on a traditional platformer. Not saying that it’s bad, but it’s not a masterpiece either.

Breath of the wild, sure. One of the greatest games made by Nintendo, it redefined the open world genre, but tears of the kingdom is just more of the same, now with cars.

They offer something valuable? Sure… Sometimes they do something good, but the amount of bullshit they bring the videogames world is so big that any good thing they make is strongly eclipsed by the rest of what they do.

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most expensive products in the industry.

Counter point: PS5 Pro is au$1200 vs Switch OLED for au$540

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Counter counterpoint Ps5 pro is modern hardware. Switch internals were outdated at launch and they still cost the same as 7 years ago.

Ps: I do believe Ps5 pro is stupidly overpriced, but that doesn’t mean Switch isn’t.

Edit: typo

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There’s no doubt they’ve created some very good games in the past. Some of their games have become the standard in their genre, and some others have created a new genre even.

But that can’t justify their shitty behavior. Especially now that they only create crap. Sure, breath of the wild was huge, made some incredible things, etc. But what else? Mario Odyssey is just mario 64 v.2, animal crossing? Let’s not talk about that shit, and I think Pokémon doesn’t even deserve to be mentioned.

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What? Instead of them acting bad and overprotective about their games, you’d rather the games didn’t exist at all? That doesn’t make sense. There are problems with the company, but they still make good games. It’s not like they mistreat their employees or anything (as far as I’m aware).

Question: What happens if they do disappear like you want? Nintendo fans stop getting the games they like… and how does this benefit everyone else?

Also saying someone deserves to be scammed because they are uninformed is weird. Some people just don’t read gaming discourse and reviews, they’re not obligated to. And some people actually like the games despite their flaws, but that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a better game.

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First, they are not overprotective with their games. They are suing for patent infringement over bullshit because in Japan they own patents for things as stupid as “riding a creature in a game”. And this is what’s happening here. They are hampering progress because they want to be the only one in the monster catching genre. They can vigorously fuck off.

If Nintendo disappears, someone else will come. So many companies died and nothing happened. It’s a videogame, they’re not making life-saving devices.

If someone buys a Pokémon game now they are rarely uninformed, they are rewarding a company for their shitty behaviour. It’s not the first Pokémon and it’s not the first time Nintendo acts shitty. But their fanatics will keep defending the company no matter what. At that point, what else can you expect? It’s like buying an EA game and then crying because it’s full of micro transactions and useless dlcs, etc.

Also, yeah, if you’re uninformed and get scammed over stuff that’s been happening for years, it’s all on you. Fool me once and all that.

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I agree that they can fuck off with the patent thing. I’m not trying to defend their actions. Also yeah, if someone buys a pokemon game after not liking the previous one, then cries about it being bad, that’s on them. But not all of them have played one of the bad ones before. Although I guess if you don’t research before you buy, you can’t be too surprised. Also you have to keep in mind that the people complaining about the pokemon games online aren’t the majority of the people buying it. Most people buying them just want a pokemon game and don’t care too much about it’s quality as long as it still has what they like. Although that doesn’t excuse all the bugs and stuff.

But with Nintendo disappearing, how does that benefit anyone? If you don’t like Nintendo games, you can already just not play them. People buying them buy them because they like them. Them disappearing doesn’t help people who do like Nintendo games, and it doesn’t help people who don’t like Nintendo games.

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40 points

I think people are jumping to the conclusion way too fast. We should wait and see what the actual case is about before making judgements.

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I think that conclusion is being come to because Nintendo has a really bad history with patent and legal abuse

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19 points

Patents are cancer for software, I’ll side with Carmack before Nintendo any day.

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17 points

Nah. Unless these guys literally stole the code, Nintendo can fuck right off.

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12 points

Nah, fuck bitchtendo.

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ya man fuck them!!! Like who gives a fuck what’s happening we just want to fuck everyone when there’s a chance

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we just want to fuck everyone when there’s a chance

No, just specifically Nintendo as they have shown that they are complete assholes

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6 points

Nintendo can specifically go fuck themselves for being such litigious bastards.

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28 points

Fuck Nintendo.

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I have been boycotting nintendo for a while now. But it seems that for most people, they don’t care how horrid a company is so long as they get to consume.

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18 points

The best example of this is Disney.

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What makes Disney particularly difficult to boycott is that it is a monopoly.

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They don’t have a monopoly on entertainment.

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