So you don’t think these patents are going after any aspect of Palworld that players would recognize as a defining feature of a Pokémon game?
I mean, there’s like a mechanic where you throw the spheres, right? And this is a very obvious, in your face system [that’s very much like Pokémon]. But I think that it will be a lot more technical than this. Nintendo would have dug through every single action inside the game, they would have probably reverse engineered it, and just find ways to sue these guys.
You can bet your life that Nintendo hates this company, and they couldn’t find an angle with the character designs. This is why they are not mentioned in their press release. So they come with these technical peculiarities. So I personally believe, if you act like this, you can sue like 90 percent of the game developers in the world. I’m sure there’s like thousands of games that have a confirmation screen when you go from sleep mode to resuming the game right, but if you basically trigger the wrath of Nintendo, they will come after you.
Nintendo is one of the worst companies in the videogames world. They need to fail, and I really hope this next switch becomes something worse than WiiU and they disappear from the world.
However, they won’t. Their fanatics won’t let them. So I can only hope they double down in their anti consumer behaviour to screw as many customers as they can. Because honestly? If after all these years you keep buying a Pokémon game, you deserve to be scammed and abused as a customer.
My hot take is that even before they flushed their goodwill down the toilet, they were a mediocre company. “Here, buy our 500 dollar console with graphics worse than your phone so you can play the Mario game that we added a magic hat to.”
Worst and most expensive products in the industry.
There’s no doubt they’ve created some very good games in the past. Some of their games have become the standard in their genre, and some others have created a new genre even.
But that can’t justify their shitty behavior. Especially now that they only create crap. Sure, breath of the wild was huge, made some incredible things, etc. But what else? Mario Odyssey is just mario 64 v.2, animal crossing? Let’s not talk about that shit, and I think Pokémon doesn’t even deserve to be mentioned.
Show me a platformer as good as Mario Odyssey not counting A Hat in Time, and I might stop buying from Nintendo. Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom are great games too. Saying that they don’t offer anything valuable is misguided.
Mario Odyssey is just Mario 64-2. New gimmicks on a traditional platformer. Not saying that it’s bad, but it’s not a masterpiece either.
Breath of the wild, sure. One of the greatest games made by Nintendo, it redefined the open world genre, but tears of the kingdom is just more of the same, now with cars.
They offer something valuable? Sure… Sometimes they do something good, but the amount of bullshit they bring the videogames world is so big that any good thing they make is strongly eclipsed by the rest of what they do.
most expensive products in the industry.
Counter point: PS5 Pro is au$1200 vs Switch OLED for au$540
What? Instead of them acting bad and overprotective about their games, you’d rather the games didn’t exist at all? That doesn’t make sense. There are problems with the company, but they still make good games. It’s not like they mistreat their employees or anything (as far as I’m aware).
Question: What happens if they do disappear like you want? Nintendo fans stop getting the games they like… and how does this benefit everyone else?
Also saying someone deserves to be scammed because they are uninformed is weird. Some people just don’t read gaming discourse and reviews, they’re not obligated to. And some people actually like the games despite their flaws, but that doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a better game.
First, they are not overprotective with their games. They are suing for patent infringement over bullshit because in Japan they own patents for things as stupid as “riding a creature in a game”. And this is what’s happening here. They are hampering progress because they want to be the only one in the monster catching genre. They can vigorously fuck off.
If Nintendo disappears, someone else will come. So many companies died and nothing happened. It’s a videogame, they’re not making life-saving devices.
If someone buys a Pokémon game now they are rarely uninformed, they are rewarding a company for their shitty behaviour. It’s not the first Pokémon and it’s not the first time Nintendo acts shitty. But their fanatics will keep defending the company no matter what. At that point, what else can you expect? It’s like buying an EA game and then crying because it’s full of micro transactions and useless dlcs, etc.
Also, yeah, if you’re uninformed and get scammed over stuff that’s been happening for years, it’s all on you. Fool me once and all that.
I agree that they can fuck off with the patent thing. I’m not trying to defend their actions. Also yeah, if someone buys a pokemon game after not liking the previous one, then cries about it being bad, that’s on them. But not all of them have played one of the bad ones before. Although I guess if you don’t research before you buy, you can’t be too surprised. Also you have to keep in mind that the people complaining about the pokemon games online aren’t the majority of the people buying it. Most people buying them just want a pokemon game and don’t care too much about it’s quality as long as it still has what they like. Although that doesn’t excuse all the bugs and stuff.
But with Nintendo disappearing, how does that benefit anyone? If you don’t like Nintendo games, you can already just not play them. People buying them buy them because they like them. Them disappearing doesn’t help people who do like Nintendo games, and it doesn’t help people who don’t like Nintendo games.
They need to fail, and I really hope this next switch becomes something worse than WiiU and they disappear from the world.
However, they won’t. Their fanatics won’t let them.
Nintendo is famously one of the most cash rich companies out there. A fiscal report from last year indicated they had USD$9 billion in liquid assets.
Nintendo isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and it has very little to do with whether or not fanatics “let them”.
The point their making is that Nintendo has a bigger cash vault than most actual banks.
Unless money itself stops being money, they are sitting on a cash-pile so big they could ride out several financial crises by just… Doing nothing.
I think this is a bad take, and the interviewer seems to contradict himself. He suggests that Nintendo goes after companies who copy them, but also mentions another company they’ve sued for patent infringement for a game that didn’t resemble any Nintendo property. So it seems like it has less to do with whether or not you “trigger the wrath of Nintendo”, and more whether you use their patents or not.
It should be noted that this is all just conjecture from somebody not related to the case at all. Nothing in this interview reveals any details about the actual case in question.
Their patents are not for technological innovative things at all but are for things like "presenting a confirmation pop-up window after resuming a game from sleep” or for in a isometric game projecting a shadow for a character that’s behind something so that the player know it’s there.
They’re the kind of obvious solutions that any expert in that domain would develop independently if asked to solve that problem, and patent applications for shit like that would be laughed out of the Patent Office anywhere else than Japan (and in the US before their Patent System went to shit in the late 90s).
I very much doubt this shit is valid in Europe unless there’s some kind of Treaty that means Japanese patents also apply here. If taken to court in the US such patents would most likely be invalidated - the problem in the US is that the Patent Office will accept any old bollocks obvious to doman experts and containing zero innovation, not that Patent Law actually protects this shit and they will be upheld if somebody has the money needed to dispute them in to Court.
However this is Japan and the Japanese Patent System, so it’s probably rotten to the core.
Got too big?
I haven’t heard anyone mention this since like a month after it came out. It’s down to 20k players from like two million in January.
https://steamcharts.com/app/1623730
This is just Nintendo’s standard glacial pace. We’ve had ROM sites up for a decade before they were taken down. No doubt some team of lawyers have been collecting a gargantuan hourly rate while putting together all the images of Palworld NPCs and how they’re blatant Pokemon rip-offs.
And they’re not wrong, exactly. There’s a lot of Pokemon rip-off games about. Digimon, Yokai Watch, Temtem, etc. But only Palworld has had me see the screenshots and go “they’re Pokemon”. Even Aldi don’t advertise their frosted flakes with a cartoon tiger in a red neckerchief. There are lines, and when you step over them lawyers tend to get involved.
You haven’t read the article, have you?
The problem is not the pals looking like Pokémon. The problem is that Nintendo has an enormous amount of software patents for stuff as dumb as “a confirmation pop-up window after resuming a game from sleep”.
They could literally sue any videogame in the world if they wanted because of their patent trolling in software. And that is dangerous for everyone. They can sue you for patent infringement if you make a game where the players catch a creature with a sphere. Because yeah, they patented that.
I’m taking issue with the “got too big” part.
Nintendo are patent trolls, but I think we all know why they’re going after Palworld and it won’t be about confirmation screens.
Actually that’s what they are going after. That’s why they are filing a patent infringement and not a copyright infringement cause.
I think people are jumping to the conclusion way too fast. We should wait and see what the actual case is about before making judgements.
ya man fuck them!!! Like who gives a fuck what’s happening we just want to fuck everyone when there’s a chance
I have been boycotting nintendo for a while now. But it seems that for most people, they don’t care how horrid a company is so long as they get to consume.
