sigh
It’s truly wild how hard of a heel turn mozilla has taken. I’m going to cancel my recurring donations to them, and get off all of their products.
Why would you donate to a company? I assume you are talking about the non profit
Well, it was already posted here, and i just saw an article from 2021 about something bad mozilla allegedly did
Is Mozilla in on it too? Because they’re the ones who orchestrated laying off Steve Teixeira.
holy shit you donated money to these wackos?
with so many OOS projects out there in need of funding, so many devs roughing it up, you donate to the advertising company Mozilla that has zero cash needs, they give million dollar bonuses to their executives every year.
Literally giving money to wacko rich executives
It’s almost like they are intentionally trying to get in trouble.
I feel like the CEO of Mozilla is paid by Google to be as fucking stupid as possible.
To be fair I believe being as fucking stupid as possible is a prerequisite of being a CEO of anything.
Honestly. Even my most cynical assumption was that Mozilla would subtly pressure him to leave the company, making life harder for him in ways that wouldn’t be possible to legally prove.
I haven’t seen anything this egregious since Elon Musk fired Halli.
Ok wtf is Moxilla doing? They know their company is built on good community perception, right?
I mean they’ve been pedaling AI crap for a while without negative backlash.
Similarly they tried to ride the Blockchain train back in the crypto scam days and also didn’t face any backlash.
They’ve publicly vouched to become an AI company and an advertising company without backlash.
I think most Firefox users don’t care
I think most Firefox users don’t care
Oh we care, but there’s no alternative besides Chrome and Safari and those companies are even worse (Google definitely is, anyway, Apple is debatable)
Luckily there’s still alternatives like Librewolf that unfortunately still use Mozilla’s browser engine.
I do hope the Servo project will be ready to use in a production browser soon.
What they mean with AI features is also their offline website translation feature, which is something I’ve wanted for years. The alternative is online Google website translation.
No no, guys Mozilla are the good guys. They never did something nasty like bundling tons of spyware and 3rd party calls with Firefox nor adding unique IDs to every installation. Mozilla also acquired an ad analytics company recently for some reason.
adding unique IDs to every installation.
I wasn’t familiar with that so I did a quick search. For anyone else interested here is some info about it:
- Each Firefox download has a unique identifier -ghacks, Mar. 2022
“Internet users who download the Firefox web browser from the official Mozilla website get a unique identifier attached to the installer that is submitted to Mozilla on install and first run.”
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“Firefox users who prefer to download the browser without the unique identifier may do so in the following two ways:”
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Download the Firefox installer from Mozilla’s HTTPS repository (formerly the FTP repository).
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Download Firefox from third-party download sites that host the installer, e.g., from Softonic.
“The downloaded installers do not have the unique identifier, as they are identical whenever they are downloaded.”
In the comments section someone says:
“It seems that getting Firefox from GNU/Linux repos (Debian, etc.), doesn’t come with unique IDs.”
Wtf happened in the last month? Everyone used to love and jerk off Mozilla and suddenly we hate them?
Nothing, not everyone liked it, the only difference is that my comment would result in a shit show of downvotes last week while not people are starting to realize what Mozilla/Firefox really is. Mozilla was never the “all savior” pained them to be and it only took Wireshark and a couple of minutes to see it.
Even if Mozilla/Firefox was at some point a healthy organization, the shear incredible disparity of power between Google and Mozilla/Firefox means that the probability that Mozilla/Firefox would remain a healthy, functional organization approaches zero over a long enough period of time.
This is a problem that needs legislative action to destroy Google’s incredible power and pseudo-monopoly control of search.
I am not saying Mozilla/Firefox isn’t toxic, but there a million ways that Mozilla/Firefox could end up a toxic entity and billions of dollars that are directly interested in that being the case so shrugs.
…but yeah I agree with you, Mozilla/Firefox definitely didnt turn into a shithole overnight, but until recently criticizing them has been very difficuly to do in a lot of circles.
bundling tons of spyware
I couldn’t find any info about this with a quick search. Do you have any links to where I can read more about this?
I have this in user.js:
// settings user-test-programm
user_pref("app.shield.optoutstudies.enabled", false);
// dont use me as guinea pig
user_pref("app.normandy.enabled", false);
user_pref("app.normandy.optoutstudies.enabled", false);
user_pref("messaging-system.rsexperimentloader.enabled", false);
// side-loading of telemetry-extension
user_pref("extensions.systemAddon.update.enabled", false);
// disable Mozillas new tracking aggragation thingy
user_pref("dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled", false,);
// almost only for tracking useful
user_pref("beacon.enabled", false); // so webpage can send (tracking) data before you close tab
user_pref("browser.send_pings", false); // hyperlink auditing (click-tracking)
Note: the last two are more nuanced.
Argument for beacon is that webpages will use a more intrusive way with noticeable delay to upload data on tab close. I personally prefer that, as a warning, but never saw one after years.
Argument for send_pings is, that trackers will use more mean and stealthier ways to track you, if they don’t have that interface (same as in private-attribution). I do know however, that companies who track you have high greed and low morale to begin with, and use all they can get to generate more money.
Just fire up Wireshark and inspect what Firefox calls, a lot of calling home and even if you change all the settings and config parameters to something sane it will still contact a 3rd party analytics company. Mozilla also acquired an ad analytics company recently for some reason.
Jesus isn’t rule number one of an employee suing you is to NOT FIRE THEM?
Seriously Monty Burns did this. Monty fucking burns. A cartoon villain
Season 2 - Bart gets hit by a car. Bart gets hit by Mr Burns while skateboarding. Homer uses Lionel Hutz to sue his employer, Mr Burns for 1 million dollars. On receiving notice, Mr Burns tells Smithers to fire Homer. Smithers asks “Do you think that’s wise, sir? Think of the headlines”
