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I think it’s finally time to restore the Mandate of Palestine:

  • Israelis get to live there but not their own special state
  • Palestinians get to live there but not their own special state
  • Everybody gets to hate the British, as is tradition
  • Brits finally get a colony back, it’ll lift their mood after the brexit disaster
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But what about muh prophecy?

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Unironically would be a better option if it was on the table.

That’s how bad this has gotten, guys. I’m pro-British Empire vis-a-vis the Middle East.

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One-state solution time. Bring back the Roman Empire.

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Can you imagine the Italians running everything? Sure there’d be plenty of good pasta and wine worldwide but I doubt we’d stay productive with three-hour wine lubricated lunch breaks every day

I say the USA needs to have a proper go at an empire. People could serve in the legion (navy) for citizenship and everything

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Male Parta Male Dilabuntur

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What are you talking about? The beepers and radios were bought by Hezbollah, and went to Hezbollah members. They were surgical strikes.

Meanwhile, Lebanon is still firing rockets at Israel. The only reason that not more Israeli civilians are dead is because of the Iron Dome

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So booby trapping military equipment is bad because civilians might get caught in it, but firing rockets at civilians is a-ok?

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both in absolute terms and especially compared to continuing airstrikes, some with ai-cooked target list and including actual warcrime tactics, pagers were basically spotless in terms of targeting. the more likely illegal part was in booby-trapping pagers in the first place. westpoint lawyer take on the situation https://lieber.westpoint.edu/exploding-pagers-law/

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Yeah, like, fuck Israel, I’m no ally of Israel, but the pager thing is dubious-but-overblown. I could see it being a war crime, but I could also understand if it was determined a legitimate ruse-of-war by a legitimately unbiased international court.

The fact that they immediately escalated to shelling residential areas afterwards? A bit more damning.

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bunch a civilians and children were killed by the pager attacks

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If they were surgical then why did innocent civilians and children get hurt? What kind of surgeons are you used to and what on earth is their level of success?

Meanwhile, Lebanon is still firing rockets at Israel. The only reason that not more Israeli civilians are dead is because of the Iron Dome

Why is Israel getting attacked by Hezbollah? (It’s not Lebanon attacking Israel.)

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I’d say it was closer to a surgeon than to most recent Isreali actions, but you’re right, “surgical” is always a propaganda term in military contexts. There is no clean war, only relatively less dirty.

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Saying it’s close to a surgeon compared to the rest of Israel’s actions is like saying a sawed-off shotgun is slightly more accurate because you added a tiny barrel to decrease it’s spread. It’s common knowledge this was an act of terror that violated international law and was intended to escalate the conflict to help keep Bibi and his cronies in power while also grabbing more land from Palestine and Lebanon. Calling it “surgical” is not just propaganda. It’s an outright lie and intended to misdirect from what’s actually happening.

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They have since been bombing the shit out of residential areas which is significantly less surgical…

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What are you talking about? The beepers and radios were bought by Hezbollah, and went to Hezbollah members. They were surgical strikes.

This may be news to you, but Israel has been executing a flurry of airstrikes and artillery shelling on Lebanon since.

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Surgical my ass. Blowing explosives you planted on people way out of sight AND without any situational awareness is anything but precise

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I mean it was certainly precise as in each device was carried by their respective owner and therefore intended target.

Blowing it up while the guy was standing in line in a grocery store shows how much civilian casualties have been considered though.

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I mean it was certainly precise as in each device was carried by their respective owner and therefore intended target.

There was no way to know that for Israel though, they just assumed

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More surgical than some unguided rocket over a civilian area

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I’d say its about the same. Both have no idea where it will explode. The only thing Israels solution has going for it is the significantly less powerful explosive

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Sure, that’s definitely the only operation Israel has done recently. /s

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Is Hezbollah holding hostages? Or just in a coalition government with the christian democracy party?

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you’re mixing up hamas and hezbollah, and if you want to go into rabbit hole shitshow that is lebanese politics start with Taif agreement

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I am referring to the meme which has the flag of hezbollah holding the flag of lebanon hostage.

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well it’s gotta be more about how every lebanese govt since 2006 refused to implement UNSC resolution 1701 (that one about disarming hezbollah) and how it turned out for them

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Pretty much. There are tons of zionists mascarading as Lebanese who claim that Israel is being precise and having minimal civilian casualties…

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