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Are you saying that Judaism is an inherently genocidal religion/culture?

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I assume it’s more of a generic internet atheist “religion bad” sort of critique

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Straight up Sam Harris grade bullshit except directed at Judaism. All his beliefs just the opposite target lol

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Not any more than other religions, but yes, it’s in the book preached as the word of God and prophets. Israel is what happens when you put bronze age values in practice

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This pure idealist Sam Harris-style Islamophobia logic turned toward Judaism. You’re wrong for the same reason he’s wrong about Islam.

what happens when you put bronze age morals in practice

Is this 2006? I thought Nu Atheism was over lol. You must be the last holdout for that cringe ass, warmed over racist bullshit

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To paraphrase @AYJANIBRAHIMOV@lemmygrad.ml, a Jew from Lemmygrad, from his PM

There are alternative views on that subject, which make the religious justification shaky, by Jews themselves

Well , according to Torah Ha-Qudesha , {the arrival of Jews onto the promised land} will happen after the Mashiah has arrived and not as the zionists claim it . Because the zionists have already broken the misva and have transgressed other misvas too

According to Rambam (Moshe Ben Maimon) …

there is no obligation on all Jews to go and live in Eretz Yisrael, because if they were to do so it would be violating the Three Oaths (according to our sages ) . The Jewish people may not go up en masse to take over Eretz Yisrael They may not fight with the nations of the world ( the gentiles ) . They may not attempt to force an end to the exile and bring the redemption on their own. (Ketubot 111a .)

They broke it and tarnished it to the ground

Individual Jews may live in Eretz Yisrael, but not as part of any organized effort to control the land.

In other words , we should not … ( and I repeat again ) we should not take the land of others and neither steal from its people .

The Almighty h-shem has already put guardians and custodians to the land and it’s sacred places that are very important and beloved to us observant orthodox and traditional jews , and it’s the Palestinian Arabs , not the zionists .

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Not any more than it’s a Christian, Muslim, or secular value, is probably what they mean.

More specifically, that hating the atrocities committed by an ethnostate ≠ hating the dominant ethnicity of that state since that behavior isn’t ethnically intrinsic.

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Waow. Pretty antisemitic of those rabbis, if you ask me.

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