While election almost certain to be decided by swing states, pollsters explain why growth in national polls is meaningful


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121 points

It only matters in the swing states. The ones where they’re trying to purge the voter registrations, sometimes successfully. The system is broken.

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61 points

The Republican campaign strategy: “cheat to win, win to cheat.”

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22 points

Down ballot matters everywhere.

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9 points

Only if people are allowed to vote when they show up

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4 points

It still matters… that’s the problem.

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18 points

That’s correct. The polls are still very close where it counts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/28/us/politics/harris-trump-poll-michigan-wisconsin.html

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“There’s growing evidence to support a surprising possibility: [Trump’s] once formidable advantage in the electoral college is not as ironclad as many presumed. Instead, it might be shrinking,” Cohn argued.

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19 points

I’m in a red state. I’m in a neighborhood with a lot of of retired Republicans. I don’t see a single Trump sign, but there is a growing count of Harris signs, including “Republicans for Harris.” ymmv

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3 points

Even in the strongest hold out states, they can be flipped if enough people vote. It can also set up for a flip next election. Vote anyway.

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117 points

Vote anyway. Be part of a sweep.

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57 points

Vote for every office, not just the president

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24 points

In TX, Theodore “I left my dog snowflake at home while the state was freezing and without power for a family trip to Cancun then blamed my wife and children for the trip” Cruz is currently up for defeat.

He only just barely won against Beto O’rourke last time. Colin Allred is closing in and needs all the help he can get.

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5 points

I would love nothing more than to see that snake pick his bags and fuck the fuck off.

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3 points

His name is not Theodore. It’s Rafael.

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17 points

I think she’ll be busy enough with one job

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46 points

Make it Trump’s most embarrassing loss to date!

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4 points

Followed by a jail sentence!

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42 points

A sweep will also make it harder for the inevitable attempt of republicans to invalidate the election.

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5 points

end this silver spoon narcissist retiree’s bullshit. Please vote

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106 points

oh man I remember how hilary was going to win by such a large margin in those polls.

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41 points

kamala harris isn’t hillary, though. I heard a recording of myself from like 2005 and a someone was saying “yeah hillary clinton can unite people” and I said “…against her” and I barely cared about politics back then.

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6 points

the gop has made inroads on the young white dude demographic, largely because of incels. Its more of a tossup for that reason and the electoral college (which lets all agree needs some kind of proportional rank choice fix, or to be dropped entirely for popular vote)

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Turnout is typically very poor amongst young people. It will be interesting to see how much young people vote, and the gender breakdown. Because if turnout is consistent across gender, then any of those gains will be wiped out by young women leaning strongly progressive (or at least, liberal).

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34 points

Does no one remember Jame Comey, Director of the FBI, coming out just before the election and saying they were reopening the investigation regarding her email server?

The polls were right, at the time.

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Except Professor Alan Licthman predicted Hillary would lose then and has predicted a Kamala Harris win. He actually uses a scientific method for his predictions.

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Many of the keys are subject to arbitrary interpretation; Nate Silver criticized his process and arguably has a better probability model with more consistent accuracy across thousands of races somewhere around 90%. Key 2 was given to Biden despite the writing on the wall that 2/3 of Democrats wanted a contest both before and after the primaries. Key 3 Incumbency these days is more of a liability with both candidates distancing themselves. Key 9 Scandals have lost a lot of meaning in the Trump era.

Should be noted that he gave a full-throated endorsement of Hillary Clinton… only to predict she’d lose. The thing is, he had originally referenced in two different publications ahead of that prediction that she would specifically lose the popular vote. She didn’t. He then changed his model.

Also I’m not a fan of this guy because he belittled with insults those who called for Biden to step down… Despite not giving a prediction on Biden at the time.

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arbitrary interpretation

They aren’t as arbitrary as they seem, it’s just that the media don’t go into the full detail.

For example, key 2 is actually “The candidate is nominated on the first ballot and wins at least two-thirds of the delegate votes”, which is clearly true

Furthermore, the entire point of this method is that it ignores opinion polls. So it makes no difference whether the public actually wanted a primary contest or not. Likewise, it doesn’t matter whether scandals have “lost meaning”.

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7 points

I saw an interview with him and he gives off quack vibes to me. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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I mean if we understand he is a quack but he’s somewhat good at reading vibes… I would guess he’s just accurately reading the vibes, which means very little.

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Polls use scientific methods too, that doesn’t mean they aren’t wildly incorrect from time to time.

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a scientific method for his predictions

🙁

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2 points

Really? Because I remember:

People learned the wrong lesson from 2016 polling.

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Harris doesn’t suck though. People actually like her.

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82 points

For fucks sake this should not be tight or close. It should be a gods damned CURB STOMP that destroys the Republican party for the rest of history DAMMIT.

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16 points

Ozzy Osbourne would be a safer choice than this guy

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Oh yeah? But would Ozzy Osbourne put Trump’s family members in positions of power, funnel as much booty - I mean national wealth as imaginable into Trump’s personal pockets and benefit Trump’s corrupt cronies? Sorry, I mean make America great again?

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76 points

Don’t trust polls. Vote.

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