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People werenât happy in the 90s they were angry and the music reflected that
Rebellious, anti-materialist, anti-machine
But I wouldnât say we were unhappy on a personal level
Exactly. Iâm quite happy, and I also like rebellious, anti-machine music. I still listen to Rage Against the Machine, and Iâm in a pretty stable life situation, not a minority, etc. I just really donât like people who abuse authority, and I donât see that changing regardless of how happy I am.
Sample bias. The unhealthy and depressed people were less likely to be out being active and having fun.
Man I miss when concerts and events werenât just for rich kids and people with disposable incomes. I remember going to see Metallica, $40 mid tier tickets. I saw AC DC for about the same. Rob zombie with Ozzy Osbourne. I even saw a WrestleMania for like $80 and that was a lot then for great seats.
Now concert tickets for Metallica are running $400-500 mid tier each. Even smaller bands and events are more than what a premium event used to cost. The development League hockey games cost more than the NHL games used to. Working class people have been priced out.
I paid $25 to listen to Power Trip inside of someoneâs house.
It was one of the best and insane concerts I ever went to.
Metallica? I dunno, man. Maybe? Thing is, they, like Pink Floyd, have bucket-list status.
If youâre gonna see them before you die, youâre gonna pay for it. They know theyâre established, influential, and huge, and they can basically charge whatever they want.
Still, tho. Iâd rather pay $30 to go see The Melvins and get my face melted off by Buzz and his two drummers.
I get 15-20 dollar tickets to concerts by bands I love fairly often, personally. It definitely depends a bit what kind of music youâre in to, and probably what part of the country you live in, but cheap concerts are still out there.
Did you notice they mentioned pretty huge bands that bring in tens of thousands of people? Yeah, these groups donât do shows where the tickets are 15-20$, but whatâs fucked up is that they did back in the 90s when they pulled in even bigger crowds. So what has changed for their tickets to be 10x (or more) as expensive as 30 years ago? Ticketmaster.
15-20$ in my area might get you symphony type concerts, but not one of their good ones. I could also pay the cover at a bar that has a live band. The smallest venues near me are still 50+ per ticket.
I could also pay the cover at a bar that has a live band.
I think the disconnect here is to me and the guy youâre replying to, thatâs still a show/concert/whatever you wanna call it, but since a band like Julie isnât as big as Metallica, they play the venues metallica used to play in '84, while Metallica is an arena act now. A concert doesnât have to be in a theater or arena, that âcoverâ is the ticket price. Like see this show here at The Middle East downstairs in Cambridge MA, https://www.mideastoffers.com/tm-event/czarface-ocelot/ youâre not just paying $30 to get in, youâre paying $30 for an advanced ticked to see Czarface (who fucking rules btw), $35 day of show.
Unless you mean some shitty cover band nobody knows the name of in a bar nobody wants them in, in that case my mistake, bars around here donât charge a cover for that they basically use it to beg for customers. I hate it, I wanted to drink with my friends and talk not âSURPRISE! Bad Barenaked ladies and Eve6 covers for 4 hours!â
I saw AC/DC twice for about 60 bucks each and though it was craaaazy expensive, because most shows i went to were like 5-10 bucks. Iâm not even a big AC fan, i just thought back then that itâs probably the last opportunity to see them. They played with the offspring which iâm also not crazy about, but now that would ve an insane lineup for that kind of money.
Only like 10 or 15 years later there was a similar opportunity with iron maiden i think. I asked a friend to get tickets, but then it was already that if you didnât buy them the millisecond they went on sale, they were bought up by bots.
Now concert tickets for Metallica are running $400-500 mid tier each.
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And here I thought 80 EUR for GNR was too much.
Neither is Metallica. Thatâs not how this works, isnât it? People come because they know the band name, remember good old songs, and so on.
GNR doesnât have any concerts right now, so I can only use this data: https://www.rateyourseats.com/tickets/guns-n-roses
The average ticket price for all shows was $365
Thatâs still much more expensive than 80 EUR (which includes taxes).
Just basic supply/demand⌠plus a little bit of elasticity and profit max.
I think revenues also shifted from selling music to using cheap music to sell concerts.
In my area at least, affordable concert tickets are still a thing. I see something like $30-60 for most acts, provided theyâre not mega-popular like Metallica or Taylor Swift. If we look at inflation vs, say, 1995, we should expect things to cost about twice as much, and that seems to pretty much right (e.g. a $20 ticket in 1995 would be a little over $40 today). I went to a Dashboard Confessional concert in the early 2000s, and I think it was something like $40, so today Iâd expect that to be $80. I see Dropkick Murphyâs tickets (I think similar popularity?) for something like $60-70, which is about right. And before you get into income discussions, wages have been beating inflation (this graph is from COVID, longer term has a similar trend), with the main exception being the year and a half or so of massive inflation.
So I donât think tickets have necessarily gotten more expensive relative to inflation, theyâve always been kind of expensive. What does seem to have changed is the price ceiling for events seem to have gone up substantially. I donât think I had ever seen single-ticket prices go as high as current Taylor Swift tickets go for, so it seems people are more willing to pay a premium than they were before.
True, when I see a modern concert recording, all I see are sad and sobbing people, hating that they are at a concert
Can confirm. Everyone hate to be in front of Tailor Swift. They all yell at her at one point.
The phone thing is so ridiculous. Stay at home and watch someone elseâs video at that point. The compulsion to document everything that happens to yourself is something I just donât get.
Idk, it was a thing in the early 2000s as well. I remember my friends sharing flip-phone quality videos with me of concerts they went to, so sharing experiences via digital recording isnât anything new.
I also think itâs dumb, but itâs not particularly new.
This is probably my biggest boomer opinion. People need to know that i was here, people need to know how much fun iâm having. If people donât know how amazing my life is, whatâs even the point of going out?
My tinfoil opinion is because of social media traveling is now everyoneâs favourite hobby. Tinder is just full of women who use the planet as a background to take their picture in front of.
When i was little, the worst part about other peopleâs holidays was that there was a chance that they invited you to their homes to watch their boring dia shows of their vacation. Now itâs almost impossible to not look at someoneâs vacation
