Knock on wood, I have not used them in quite a while.

108 points

Typical of Google to shut down yet another service

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I’ve full on stopped accepting new Google products, only exception being the pixel phone, but I’ll root that if they decide to drop support.

I work in development and am proud to say I have convinced 3 companies now to steer clear of GCP because of their track record.

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I bet someone has made a list.

googles

Yup.

The first item on the field is a search field. The “all” category has 288 entries.

https://killedbygoogle.com/

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That website shows how much Google buys up and then shuts down, centralising it’s power even more.

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I mean, scrolling down that list, those all make sense. I guess if Google just did what all the other companies do and silently let go of these things instead of announcing that they are ending them so that developers and users know ahead of time not to expect long term stable and support that would be one thing. Google’s development process isn’t the same as everyone else’s though and their current method of developing tandem products and then gauging success of each and then folding the best features of the less successful one into the main one is obviously not a bad methodology as we have seen. As well it’s kind of important to a company to not waste resources on projects that customers both don’t find interesting and consume more resources than they generate while at the same time serve no greater benefit to anyone as a whole. Like, what do you want them to do? Nobody needs a web browser toolbar anymore, it’s 2023. Everyone screamed at and hated the entire concept of stadia, so they ended it. GPM was a financial failure with very few users that was due for a massive code overhaul. Like damn people, chill out.

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Not to mention that the cpanels, documentation, and APIs for Google Cloud look like they were written by alien robots to be consumed by alien robots. I’ve never seen any other platform or docs as confusing and pointlessly convoluted as gcloud docs.

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They’re the absolute worst. Doc links will go in circles, redirecting you back to where you just were, API documentation is out of date - or worse it’s out of date and doesn’t tell you until the end of reading if it even tells you at all.

Not even mentioning how everything is in permanent “alpha” and “beta” state. Things are never finalized so they can get away with changing the definition on a whim and say “sorry it was in beta, now it’s in beta5”. I had to rewrite Pub/Sub code at least once a month because they changed their spec on that, and that was one of their “most finalized” products.

Fuck GCP, I will actively avoid jobs that code on it now. If you want enterprise customers, provide an enterprise product. This isn’t chat where you can rebuild it every year because your marketers are bored. These are enterprise products that companies depend on.

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Honestly, it’s not as bad as AWS or Azure. Plus if you use k8s it’s first-in-class support, since Google came up with k8s. There is a fairly steep learning curve though.

If you’re deploying anything in cloud infra you need to make sure it’s portable between providers. Vendor lock-in is a big avoidable no-no.

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Hope they didn’t instead pick the security shitshow over at Azure.

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Actually you meant compliance, security has other random stuff. /s

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75 points

They really made the zip domain then dipped out

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made the zip domain then dzipped out

ftfy

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I am really thinking of switching to Microsoft for all my cloud needs, including email, photos and cloud storage and online office webapps.

I can’t trust that company no more.

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I get what you mean, I didn’t mean it that way. I trust them in the sense that they make more logical decisions with their products that Google ever will.

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Dang.

But most of these I can understand why they cancelled them.

Google doesn’t make sense. They canned some big projects with a large user base.

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14 points

Just, be prepared for things to randomly not work a few times a day.

As a developer, interacting with their APIs can be quite painful… as, things are frequently moving around, or temporarily unavailable.

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6 points

The level of truth this is hurts me to my core.

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There are others.

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Yeah surely. But Microsoft really stands by their product. Especially since it’s well integrated with Office, their most important software. Yeah that’s right, even more than Windows itself.

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After that Ms master key disaster, that’s a bold strategy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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That’s like switching from cholera to plague.

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Oh I know all about Foss. I was a Foss evangelist in university.

But some things you can’t quite replace.

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I’ve personally switched to Nextcloud and I’m quite happy with it.

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You could try Proton, but I am not aware if they are offering any online office web apps.

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You could use proton cloud storage to do 90% of the same thing you just would have to have local editors installed

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I don’t think so, no.

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It’s only a matter of time before you the same regarding microsoft. Their services always get worse as time progresses.

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My order of preference for domain registrars is:

  1. Cloudflare (doesn’t support all TLDs, unfortunately)
  2. Porkbun (does have wide TLD support, and has no-bullshit pricing, albeit higher than Cloudflare)
  3. Namecheap. They’re cheap and Canadian… no other reason than just a backup to have.
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I’ve been using Namecheap for years and have been happy with it. Why do you prefer Cloudflare? Is it for easier integration with Cloudflare services? How’s the pricing compared to Namecheap?

Sorry for the interrogation lol

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Cloudflare sells domains at cost. So yes, cheaper than any other registrar (including NameCheap and Porkbun), except maybe those who sell domains at a loss as a promo to rope you in and then kill you on the renewals.

Integration into their stack is a nice side effect, but really inconsequential. You can have your domains registered with any registrar and have your DNS hosted by any DNS hosting provider. Heck, you can run your own DNS servers if you want to.

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Cloudflare could be the cheapest (without cross-financing) because they advertise their pricing as they don’t add any additional fees to the ICANN fees. I never actually fact checked this though.

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One benefit of using Cloudflare DNS is that you can place a CDN on the domain apex. So if you’d like to have https://domain.com instead of https://www.domain.com then they can make that happen.

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I really want to use porkbun but I don’t want to write scripts to integrate a custom name server api into ddclient. (I know some people have written their own wrappers but they’ve yet to make it upstream.) Namecheap it is then.

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Cloudflare will do DNS for domain suffixes that they don’t support. I’ve never used Porkbun but as long as you can set custom nameservers then you can point it at CF and use all the tools they support.

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I just don’t like the idea of supporting a company as large as Cloudflare. That and their pricing system doesn’t make a lot of sense. I have to wonder where they are making their margin back.

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Technically they won’t. They won’t host OpenNIC TLDs, for example. However, you can have your domain registered with any registrar, and as long as you specify Cloudflare’s assigned DNS servers for your domain (DNSSEC records can be set too), you should be OK.

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Njalla is mine. I like the privacy protections they offer.

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WHOIS privacy? Porkbun does that for free for all TLDs that support it.

I don’t think I fully understand how what they offer isn’t “ownership by proxy”. I suppose they promise not to release your info if police ask for it? On the other hand, they technically own the domains you register through them, so if they get repossessed (e.g. through legal bankruptcy proceedings), whoever their new owner is, will presumably also own your domains…

I’m probably not seeing something here, but this all sounds sketchy to me.

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Hopefully Google used promo code “Killedbygoogle” to get 15% more in this transaction

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