Like it’s only so long until a user there posts a dumbass “Kick Tankies out of Lemmy” meme to try and start shit to get us defedded and hexbears take the bait immediately and pile on to tell them what a dumbass they are.

Like as dumb as the “death to NATO” being compared to “death to the people of NATO” stuff was, blahaj and hexbear are the largest queer instances and I quite like taking part in it and their trans communities, idk it’s kinda nice to interact with people who don’t have the same kind of hexbear brainrot where I see the words “pumpkin spice”, “Maoist cult”, “Soyfacing PMC radlib” or “rock stacking” and immediately start to go :sus: mentally, it feels refreshing to be able to talk to an incredibly queer positive community that doesn’t have the same kind of internet poisoning as all of us. And it seems kind of assholy that some of the users here just don’t give a shit and want to post and dunk until we get defedded by every instance, this isn’t like lemmy.ca where they were all dicks that none of us liked anyway and were complaining about us doing hate speech against fucking landlords or lemm.ee where almost every time time a user from there pops their head into our threads here they say something racist or transphobic. iirc blahaj.zone was actually the second most requested instance to federate with in the pre federation discussions due to how good of a queer space it was.

Like their first defed thread was a complete embarrassment because there were a load of users there that actually had positive opinions towards us and then they saw the shitshow happening once from the post reaching active and changed to be way against us which tbh, fair enough.

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statements from the head mod Ada:

After that “people of NATO” bullshit, I don’t see the administrative team (the admins and mods collectively) of blahaj operating in good faith. My comment about the bad faith that other instances engage in applies as much to blahaj as the other instances like lemmy.ca. If they truly believe in the vision and strategic goals of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, they can just say so without hiding behind some ridiculous excuse. I’m sure Stoltenberg and various other generals in command of a giant military are quaking in their boots about some obscure website wishing for their collective deaths.

Most of the users seem to be cool enough, but the administrative team is a major obstacle, and frankly, I do not like it and do not believe it is fair that we have to change our behavior while they don’t have to do shit. How is this fair? We have a stickied “Amendments to the Code of Conduct regarding the Fediverse” issued by an admin, so what have they done in return? Apparently, our admins went out of their way to delete a post for their sake, so when are their admins going to delete the “fuck tankies” banner on their largest and most active comm? And this will not be the end of it, mark my words. They’ll demand more and more, ever slowly chipping away at what makes Hexbear Hexbear. If they want to demonstrate that they’re operating in good faith, they need to compromise as well.

But I’m already wasting my time. In the second of meta discussion on blahaj about Hexbear (which I will not link because that would be bRigAdInG), everyone is giving the same tired excuses (tankies, emote spam, Ukraine) about why they want to defed from us. It’s going to happen one way or another. I just wish the admins here didn’t have to humiliate themselves in the process.

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74 points

their banner image literally says “fuck tankies”

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as cringe as it is that blahaj.zone hosts an explicitly anti-communist comm for a community half full of chasers, blahaj zone as a whole is pretty cool and i wouldn’t like to see it defedded

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36 points

fair, though if it does get defedded, you can always make an account over there, i had to for some furry instances that were deemed too risque to be federated

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36 points

Yeah ig, I’d just rather be able to spend time in both at the same time rather than just one at a time

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8 points

and rightly so.

fuck authoritarianism, fuck hierarchies and fuck commie cops

no gods, no masters. the only way forward.

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fuck authoritarianism

Ok, so define it first. Bonus points if you don’t consult the state department.

The UK is currently run by an unelected, unopposed dictatorial tyrant with no mandate. Just something to think about while you try and invent a definition.

fuck hierarchies

How do you intend to organise?

fuck commie cops

I don’t see the People’s Police running protestors over or shooting minorities on the regular.

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let’s have a look at your wonderful communist china

social credit system and total surveillance. One wrong word and you’re boned.

the people’s police? You mean like Tianenmen Square?

And what about your wonderful communist utopia of Russia? Raping ukrainian children?

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63 points

You’re posting in a communist instance mf, and you’re not in either blahaj or hexbear so I don’t really give a shit about your opinion on the matter

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50 points

Despite the ML dominance we’re technically non-sectarian.

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49 points

MY WAY IS THE ONLY WAY

^ THIS IS NOT AN AUTHORITARIAN STATEMENT

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ik i’m crazy wanting liberation for all sentient beings and an end to oppression

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If not for this being Hexbear I would transform into my Super Sectarian form.

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41 points

Very helpful, thank you for your contribution to this extremely productive ongoing dialogue.

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no gods, no masters

right, so let’s go build the material conditions for this to be possible!

let’s call this process hmmm socialism, or something

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I didn’t see the original comment, but I agree with general anarchist sentiment and even I know that we won’t be able to jump right to it from capitalism. I view it more as an ideal longterm goal, and we are of course going to need to have a stable socialist society first to get there. That’s why any communist willing to work with anarchists is a comrade of mine!

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😠

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Whining about brigading and NATO are clear signs of terminal Reddit , so I’m not very optimistic about the long-term prospects for federation

But more than that, creating special rules for their weird Vaushite shitposting instance is not it imo

Frankly I was against federating with shitjustworks because they host an explicitly anti-communist comm and I’m having trouble seeing why I should feel differently about blahj

Edit: Just saw their new meta discussion on Hexbear, which despite not having a single comment from us is still full of whining, crying liberals

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63 points

trying to retake r/196 years after was taken over by vaushits is cringe, it’s an old meme, let it die

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They will probably find a reason to block us no matter what we do tbh

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Based on what their admin Ada has actually said she’s willing to put up with us a bit because she really does want to help builds a sense of trans solidarity between the two major trans instances so I feel like that’s mischaracterising her a bit. If she just wanted to find an excuse to defed us she would have done it over the shitshow in the previous defed thread.

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If that’s true, why were we defederated?

Edit: also, it’s really fucking telling on themselves that they would rather federate with Nazis than with us. Not to mention the clear contempt for hexbear, even when ostensibly trying to mend ties.

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I hadn’t seen this prior to posting in this thread and it does soften my view a lot. Supporting trans people across the lemmyverse is more important than yelling at obnoxious libs.

Maybe we can get Hexbears to agree to some kind of cease-fire thing and agree not to engage with politics on Blahaj? Idk how that would work, given the consistent failure of Liberals to support and protect trans people. That seems like it would be an inevitable point of conflict.

Might I suggest adding these to the main post so more people see them? This is important context that I didn’t have when I first posted and it might change other people’s views.

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I don’t believe it for a second. We were defederated for no real reason. They allow explicit anti-communism. These are just words. They’ll defederate you the first chance they get. Then they’ll release a statement like “well, we tried, but those tankies were just too evil”.

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Done

Yeah ngl, I probably should have added that in the first place

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