I, for one, definitely won’t be buying another Tesla as long as Naziboy Musk has anything to do with the company.

137 points

I’m still undecided on an electric car, mostly because modern cars are such privacy nightmares on wheel (not Tesla-specific).

But there’s one thing for sure: whatever car I get eventually won’t be a Tesla, and that’s 100% due to Musk’s misguided political gesticulations.

I’m one example of business lost forever to Tesla. One example doesn’t make a trend, but if there’s one, there are others.

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The main reason I won’t buy tesla is Elon.

Secondly I want a “real” car with proper signalling leavers and tactile buttons for everything, in my opinion touch screens is a safety risk.

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7 points

That’s the reason I settled for an EV with physical buttons and knobs, even if it’s an older model. No regrets.

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3 points

Which model, out of curiosity? (Kona EV here, mostly physical controls)

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5 points

On the safety issue, I have a personal pet theory that a lot of “sudden acceleration events” in Teslas come from the one pedal system they use for both gas and break.

We’re dealing with decades of ingrained muscle memory that says when you’re about to hit something/lose control/etc… you slam on the brakes. I know in some vehicles they say “in case of emergency, turn off one-pedal mode”. But seriously, in a split second emergency you’re going to remember to do that?

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We’re dealing with decades of ingrained muscle memory that says when you’re about to hit something/lose control/etc… you slam on the brakes. I know in some vehicles they say “in case of emergency, turn off one-pedal mode”. But seriously, in a split second emergency you’re going to remember to do that?

What are you talking about? The brake pedal is still there in EV’s and it still does the same job. I’ve driven an EV for 3 years using OPD and not once have I ever forgotten that the brake exists.

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That’s all EVs nowadays.

They all have regen so you barely ever brake in any of them.

Many of them also come to a complete stop without touching the brake as well. That’s not a Tesla only thing.

Edit: Oh also on a Tesla you used to be able to enable “creep” mode so it behaved like an ICE and wouldn’t come to a complete stop. The EPA changed the rules though and made it so you have to advertise the combined or lowest mileage though (can’t recall) of all features, and creep lowers mileage by a few miles due to not 100% regen, so Tesla nix’d the feature to not reduce their EPA range. New cars no longer have the feature, old cars still have it.

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6 points

I don’t think you understand what one pedal driving means. You absolutely need to use the brakes on a regular basis.

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3 points

Yeah! All these people here saying they won’t consider Tesla cars because of Elon; I won’t consider Tesla cars because they are shitty and dangerous cars.

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31 points

My parents got an EV recently and whenever you start it up you have to hit OK to a data collection thing on the touch screen before it let’s you drive off 🥴

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Sadly, most new cars are Internet connected nowadays, not just EV.

In fact, GM got caught selling customers data from their ICE cars (OnStar connected).

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4 points

Not only did I opt out, verbally by calling OnStar from the car, I then removed the cell antenna (SparkEV), which works well in the rural areas where I live, not sure about a cellular-dense location, they can probably track pings now and then. So, if I get around to it I will look into disconnecting the cell module under the passenger seat.

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5 points

Laughs in warming the carbs on my pre-2000s motorcycle while holding out the choke.

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27 points

I’ve heard so much shit about Teslas now that even if they sold the company to Bernie Sanders I wouldn’t get one

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16 points

Most of it is bollocks. The cars are actually fine. Only the moron-in-chief makes me want to sell mine.

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20 points

Being trapped in a fire? Self igniting batteries? Stuck due to software updates? Doorhandles don’t work when out of battery? Body pieces not secure? Self driving is a lie? Anti safety, anti union practices in assembly? The social cost of everyone thinking you’re a Musk fanboy?

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6 points

Their main issues are build quality and FSD that is marketed as way more capable than it is, which is a deadly combination.

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4 points

I’m desperately hoping that conversations or conversion kits become more of a thing so I can keep my dumb car, but electrify it.

Cuz it’s either that or maybe wait till cars start getting jailbroken and open source operating systems (ugh) like phones and computers… Which absolutely shouldn’t have to be a thing. But here we are.

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2 points

This is why I really want Aptera to succeed, but they aren’t getting enough funding.

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2 points

I swore off Tesla years ago when I realized Musk was such a piece of shit.

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94 points

The guy has simply lost it.

Complete idiot. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.

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87 points

True. Jeff Bezos probably the most evil man on earth, but he knows to keep his mouth shut. So his business just getting bigger and no one really care about him and most importantly the media mostly just leave him alone.

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1 point

I wouldn’t say no one.

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42 points

Imagine getting so mad online that you had a $44 billion dollar, years long meltdown about it. You wouldn’t have to pay me 1% of that to never post online again.

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19 points

I know the exact number someone would have to pay me to never post online again. That number is 3 orders of magnitude smaller than 44 billion. I could take less than that but I want to be compensated for giving up a fun little hobby.

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I’d do 4 orders of magnitude less and take $4.4 million. That’s immediate FatFIRE, never need to work again kind of money.

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7 points

It’s the usual narcissist trait of earnestly believing all your thoughts are important.

He totally has a framed photo of just himself in his office, just like his new buddy boy Donald. And I bet they don’t even like each other. They both want something and as soon as one of them get it the bromance will be over instantly.

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70 points

I own 2 Model 3’s. I waited in line the day before the reveal to plunk down $1000 to reserve it sight-unseen.

I will never buy a Tesla again, and want to unload my 2 as soon as a comparable replacement is available. I’m embarrassed to drive mine around.

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15 points

I’m really hoping Rivian can pull off mass production of the R2 and R3.

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2 points

Me too.

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12 points

Is it because of Elon at the helm of the company or moreso because the car itself is poorly made, unreliable, etc? I have a few friends who own Tesla’s, and I get mixed answers. Some say the quality is good others say it’s a POS.

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27 points

It almost varies from car to car in my very limited experience. Just from outside one, the build quality varies wildly. I worked for a surgery center for a few years and didn’t notice until I saw 2 Drs parked side by side and one of them had massive body panels gaps that even I noticed. Having seen the difference, I can see it when I pass by parked ones as I go around town.

The lack of consistency is a deal breaker for me, even if the company wasn’t run by a south African Nazi

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Did you look at the relative age of the vehicles? Consistency of finish was a widely publicized issue while they were struggling with quality trying to ramp up, but you rarely to never read about that anymore. I believe quality has consistently improved and one from the last couple model years will be significantly better than the first couple years of mass production.

However my direct experience is with a model y

  • 2023, so more modern, quality issues have been largely worked out
  • more gigacast pieces. T least at the time, the claim was that having both front and back chassis gigacast means they’re starting with perfect alignment - fewer places for misaligned body panels to happen.
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As a South African liberal: hey bru chillax.

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9 points

They’ve been great cars. The fit and finish is kind of lackluster, but the cars run great, are fun to drive, and have been extremely reliable.

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6 points

I’m in the same boat. On the one hand, it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. On the other hand, Elon Musk.

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0 points

Really? The one person that’s taken over 1 mill miles had to replace batteries and motors like it was their job. The vast majority are unwilling to do that. To call them reliable is a half-truth at best. Sure the EV1 was reliable, but it was much more basic. It was a true electric car, not a smart phone on wheels.

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-4 points

Do their respective views on the quality of their Teslas correlate to their views on Musk?

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-5 points

The cars are fine. There’s a lot of disinformation out there.

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1 point

Honestly, that’s the right move. I genuinely assume Tesla drivers are assholes at this stage. I see the Tesla logo as MAGA 2.0.

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49 points

As a Tesla owner of 7 years, my next car will absolutely not be a Tesla and it is entirely because of Elon Musk.

I appreciate the company spurring competition to enter the market with EVs, but now I hope they crash and burn.

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3 points

They’re literally crashing and burning if you pay close attention to the news.

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47 points

I agree. Many companies have shady practices but very few of them have CEOs that show their shitty character as open as Elon Musk. One important reason of buying an electric car instead of a ICE car is causing less harm / negative impact to the world. And people who make their buying decision based on that in many cases don’t appreciate people constantly lying and promoting fachism. I personally won’t buy a Tesla as long as he is involved.

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5 points

The dangerous thing here is that he’s using his influence, fame and resources to normalise being a chronic fuckhead, and it’s likely going to work.

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