Meme: Screenshot of microblog post by @alanjack replying to @fotchi.
Caption: I still don’t know why part of autistic/adhd diagnosis isn’t putting you in a room with someone already diagnosed and seeing how quickly you bond.
To be double sure, do the test once, then separate the people for three months, then reintroduce them and see if they just resume their conversation.
“As i was saying before i was so rudely interrupted 14 years ago…”
similarily if you pop 200mg of caffeine and fall asleep that might be a slight indication that you have adhd
Just sounds like caffeine addiction. I used to be able to drinks pot of coffee and then go to sleep. Then health issues caused me to give up all caffeine for several years and now if I have half a cup im wired for hours…
True, but I never drink coffee and could drink one right now and go sleep. The same when I was prescribed methylphenidate, straight to sleep. A non ADHD brain would be going 100mph.
Knowing that, this might be the best evidence that I am not ADHD I’ve heard, lol.
I know some people are “caffeine addicted” but I genuinely don’t know how the fuck people do it.
I drink a cup of coffee a day, 16oz, sometimes there’s also an energy drink in the mix, on some really serious days I have a headache or migraine and an Excedrin adds a little more in the mix.
One day I made a full pot of coffee and decided to attempt to consume the entire thing over the course of the day. I felt like my heart was trying to escape from my chest and that I was soon going to die.
An 8oz cup of coffee only has like 75-100mg of caffeine in it. With your 16oz cup plus an energy drink plus an Excedrin, that would be like ~400-500mg of caffeine. Assuming a typical drip coffee maker that can make 12 cups, you’re looking at a total of like ~1000-1200mg of caffeine, double or triple your estimated daily amount. So it’s kinda no wonder you felt wired that day. Extreme, sudden spikes in your stimulant intake will do that.
see this is the thing: i can take a 200mg caffeine pill in the middle of the day and forget i’ve done so, it has basically no effect whatsoever, neither positive nor negative.
The only actual reliable effect caffeine has on me is enabling me to get out of bed before noon, so that’s the only thing i use it for.
not everyone has a weak heart, some people train their heart like a muscle.
When you gave up caffeine did you experience rebound insomnia?
I gave up caffeine a month ago on my neurologists orders and it’s been easy, no obvious withdrawal symptoms, no cravings, I just replaced all my tea and coffee and redbull with herbal tea and lemonade.
But I have not gotten more than 3 hours of consecutive sleep in this month, and I’m missing the relaxation and quiet that a refreshing 9pm redbull used to offer, I’ve got plenty of other relaxing rituals, but none so easy as just drinking coffee.
I started drinking coffee at 15 and religiously relishing redbulls at 21. Now in my 30s, this is the first time I’ve had true insomnia symptoms.
My mother has been an insomniac her whole life, my dad is narcoleptic, I was previously diagnosed with N24CRD and my brother has DSPS, so I come from a family of fucked up sleepers, but this is a new symptom set for me and it appears directly related to giving up caffeine.
I’m hoping it’s just an adjustment period and my brain will sort itself out and get some sleep soon.
I did not have that issue. I actually overslept A LOT when on caffeine, I think I just wasn’t getting very restful sleep so I would sleep for 20-30 hours if I did not set any alarms. When I got off caffeine I started going to bed a earlier (still a “night owl” but going to bed at like 1 or 2 am instead of 5 or 6am) and sleeping without alarms gets me 10ish hours. I used to regularly sleep entirely through my “weekends” off work… Life was very stressful without any usable free time.
That’s me in my normal rhythm of substance abuse with caffeine.
It might be that.
Then again, the funny thing about caffeine is that I can go without some for weeks as long as I’m not expected to work. Longest I’ve gone without was a 12 week, almost 3 month streak. The coffee I had in my kitchen went bad.
i geniunely don’t understand why so many people immediately jump to it sounding like addiction, since when does caffeine addiction make it so taking caffeine makes you tired? Surely the symptom of caffeine addiction (or withdrawal, rather) is that not getting caffeine makes you tired?
It’s because you mentioned the daily healthy dosis of an adult, which are multiple cups, and mention falling asleep. By failing to clarify that you mentioned that dosage of caffeine as the cause of the sleep, my assumption lead to the expectation that the sleep comes DESPITE the caffeine. Hence the substance abuse comment.
Also, one can abuse a substance without an addiction.
But yeah, sometimes I too fall asleep because of coffee, not despite coffee. It’s mostly when I pick it back up after a week or so, but not always.
Drag knows lots of people with autism who are absolute assholes and drag doesn’t get along with them at all. So this test wouldn’t work reliably.
Ever seen Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs? Flint Lockwood and his dad both have big time autism, and precisely opposite mannerisms and special interests. They don’t understand each other at all and it takes a lot of effort for them to get along.
Drag, may i ask you why you refer to drag in such a way? What would in most cases refered to as “third-person”? I’m genuinely curious.
Drag uses person-independent drag/dragself pronouns. They’re inflected and conjugated the same way in first, second, and third person. They reflect drag’s identity as a dragon rider.
Ironically, this is how I found out.
I had four different people with ASD, including one person I met for the first time, tell me that I should get myself checked. One was after I had a several hour long convo with someone who could only normally talk with neurotypical people for about 30 minutes before it became a strain. He was shocked that I wasn’t diagnosed and recommended I get checked.
Now the only reason I don’t have a diagnosis is because the evaluator didn’t understand how the criteria worked. Still debating whether to try again for a diagnosis or not.
Same. For years I wondered why I tended to gravitate towards people with autism or ADHD.
I don’t have a formal diagnosis for ASD, but my current provider is very sure I have it. (She says I can get a formal dx, but it will cost a lot and will not really add any value to my life. This is my own situation, it may vary for other people.)
I suppose it depends what you want out of a diagnosis. I pursued getting evaluated for ADHD because I can pursue treatment with a diagnosis that isn’t available to me otherwise.
Either way, good luck to you!
Childhood trauma can cause the same symptoms as autism but that usually gets worked out through therapy and some mood boosters.
Guess how I found out :)
heh we’re a little similar. I thought my symptoms were all childhood trauma and I was just bad at therapy. Whoops.
Now the only reason I don’t have a diagnosis is because the evaluator didn’t understand how the criteria worked
thinking you’re smarter than trained and qualified professionals just makes you have honorary Internet autism
I don’t think I am smarter? When I was done, he literally told me that I met the criteria, but that he thought my symptoms were for other reasons he refused to elaborate on. I checked with my therapist, who was the one who referred me, and she confirmed that that isn’t how it works, and that the evaluator didn’t understand how the criteria were supposed to be graded.
Do you happen to be a woman?
I had doctors ignore my formal tests and diagnosis to decide within 10 minutes of meeting me that I can’t possibly have ADHD.
Then again, maybe it was just your turn with his God complex
I find it real easy to detect ADHD in people but that doesn’t automatically make me want to be friends with them. We’re people like everyone else at the end of the day. Some nice, some not so much.