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His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

https://phdn.org/archives/www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/documents/osssection3pt1.htm

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It’s Cluster B. Alternative reality. Never to blame. They almost need enemies to work on to be themselves. Gaslight or verbally abuse those in disagreement lest your private reality break. No empathy. Chases power over scenarios.

We’re living inside the reality of a mental illness. And because it goes to the highest office, the fuckery is exponentially more.

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24 points

so basically fascism.

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-27 points

This literally the “israeli” government. Yet we see the Democrats administration, willing to defend that. If the US government in principle is happy supporting a Nazi government; i feel that it reflects well having 2/3 of the population being happy with a Nazi government themselves.

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11 points

Dude… Go away

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If you look into the war at all… He’s not wrong. Israel is no better then Russia right now.

Edit… Actually probably worse, because where Russia has failed to advance further… Israel has not.

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The Israeli government is being fascist, and has been for a long time. Thank you for calling it out. Sad to see the down votes because Palestinians have been locked in Israel’s cage with no freedom for decades, and Lebanon is next. Hopefully society starts to shift in its outlook and complicity.

You hit the nail on the head too. So many people cannot support Democrats during this election because although they call for freedom and justice, they also call for arms transfers and no repurcussions for Netanyahu countlessly dissolving freedom and justice for Palestinians.

Voting for Democrats, unfortunately, boils down to “rights for me, not for thee”, and the only difference between that sentiment and what you might find in Conservatives is that Democrats hold that distinction between all Americans and those from other countries. Conservatives hold that between different groups of Americans.

Really sours any hope I had for Kamala overtaking Biden

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Israel gov is apartheid and fascist. Still, we exist in the world, and someone will be elected president of the United States. A person here can either vote strategically, or they can abstain and potentially help the worst option win.

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3 points

The downvotes are probably from bots.

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1 point

The ruling class is taking advantage of our different time preferences. If you expect to live long enough to die to climate change, then you’re “privileged”.

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Trump and so many of his zionist first supporters have backed Trump specifically because of “rising anti semitism” in US. University protests against genocide should have been handled like Kent State, to them. Biden/Blinken have been ineffective in getting ceasefires, possibly intentionally ineffective. But that is partly because Netanyahu prefers Trump, and Trump promises to fully support “finishing the job of genocide”. It’s unfair to critizide Dems for Israel, when US is bipartisanly Israel first political/state rule.

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Wow so edgy and original!

Never heard a Hamas propagandist say “actually Israel is nazi” before!

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4 points

First time for everything! Crazy to think it’s true, but here we are in this brave new world

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No one is for Hamas, but if you are pro Israels government right now, you are pro genocide, and there is no evidence anywhere that shows otherwise. Mother’s complaining their kids have PTSD from driving military equipment threw hundreds of women and children… And somehow claiming the women and children are terrorists… With zero evidence other than they existed in the area that was invaded.

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Read the whole and thing and, wow. It’s just unbelievable to me that people can support this man so fervently.

I guess it’s what happens when you give people permission to be completely selfish and devoid of empathy. He’s a fucking psychopath.

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37 points

It’s what happens when you get your news in parts of the country where Fox and Sinclair own the airwaves. They make immigrants and democrats seem terrifying.

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7 points

add in some social media for the younger people and bam, recipe for fascism.

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18 points

Not psychopathy. But narcissistic personality disorder. If you know anyone who has lived with one, they can tell you it’s on the verge of psychopathy.

It’s crazy behavior and crazy talk because it’s mental illness, probably somewhere around 60 years untreated mental illness. And hallmarks of NPD are maintaining a personal alternative reality, mentally tearing apart anyone disagreeing with that alternative reality, and no empathy.

I’m sick to death of no one talking about it and calling it what it is. We can talk about Biden’s dementia but not this?

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I agree 100%. Not sure if it’ll helps you feel better but I’m “the” other person that has been saying this along with you lol. I’m a psychology geek and it is so completely obvious that’s what he has imo. I have noticed over the years that people don’t “get” NPD because it’s so counter-intuitive to a functioning human though.

I would actually argue that NPD is on average more dangerous than the ASPDs like psychopathy and sociopathy because it implicitly involves other people. Psycho/sociopaths want “something” and will do anything to get it but sometimes that thing they want may be fairly harmless. Like maybe they sometimes they just stuff so they’re thieves. Not great, but mostly a victimless crime. Narcissists specifically want admiration and to prop up that fragile sense of self but that always specifically involves other people, so they’re always going to be in proximity with others where the ASPDers may not.

Tldr, the doom Cheeto is a POS with NPD and I will lose exactly zero sleep the day he dies.

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The latest Ezra Klein talks about this, finally, and in a way that probably won’t get him sued. It’s well articulated, as always with Klein, and more than a little terrifying given the way he builds his presentation.

The podcast is also a YouTube entitled something to the effect of: what’s wrong with trump, not age.

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6 points

Its just standard brainwashing. It’s not even complicated. It’s all right out in the open.

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4 points

It sucks sharing a world with terrorists.

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85 points

Is he aware that Germany lost?

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28 points

I expect he is a slow reader. He may not have gotten to that part of the book yet.

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17 points

He said his favorite book is Mein.

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7 points

Maybe he has good associations with that word because when he said lo mein at a Chinese restaurant a plate of greasy noodles arrived

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5 points

In fairness, the one he’s read ends before that.

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20 points

Pretty sure he would consider murdering millions of Mexicans as a win, even if it ends with a bullet to his temple.

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Ya know I realise this is complete conspiracy theory.

However, I’m still willing to give a 2-5% chance that if Trump gets back into power, within the last 12-18 months of his presidency he’ll declare a special operation into North Mexico to ‘secure the border’, ‘stop the illegal immigrants’ and ‘remove the drug cartels’.

Then he’ll claim it’s too dangerous to hold the election, or not appropriate, or whatever excuse because of the special operation. And then he’ll postpone the election with the approval of the SC as a presidential duty and therefore not illegal.

And I know this is insane but every time I ask myself “would trump attempt something like this?” The answer is always “yes”

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16 points

If someone tells you they’re a Nazi, believe them and treat them accordingly.

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He absolutely would, not even a risky bet. It wouldn’t even be the first time we’ve invaded Mexico to take land (oversimplifying).

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Germany mainly lost by losing the economics and resources games. A secondary factor was when Hitler started taking over strategic and tactical planning from the generals.

My take on the generals themselves is that they were at least not terrible.

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16 points

Economic and resources problems are part in parcel with a despot with a desire for absolute loyalty.

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Dont understand why you get downvoted, as I assume you mean that the generals wrwe not strategical and tactical terrible. Think most historians will agree that Hitlers direct involvement in the war was a growing issue in conducting the war. Also Hitler stayed in power by making sure that the levels below him were at each others throats and not able to challenge him directly. Nazi Germany was not technically on a war economy until Speer took over, and the amount of corruption was immens.

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Think most historians will agree that Hitlers direct involvement in the war was a growing issue in conducting the war.

This part has been revisited in the decades since the end of the Cold War. The problem was that most western sources were either written by the Allies or were from German generals who survived. In a repudiation of “history is written by the victors” (a phrase that should be expunged in general), almost everything known about the eastern front came from the German side of the story.

Those generals tended to point fingers at Hitler. Everything would have been dandy if they were the ones in charge.

Then the Cold War ends, and there’s a flood of new information from the Russian side of things. Western historians start going over the new information, and some new conclusions start to come out. Hitler did fuck a lot of things up personally, but those German generals were full of shit in other ways.

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Well they were probably too loyal to their idiot Fuhrer. Methinks it’s the loyalty part that Trump wants.

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6 points

The generals tried to overthrow or assassinate him on multiple occasions. The most famous one is the plot for the movie “Valkyrie”.

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1 point

Wasn’t Blitzkrieg like a brilliant strategy at the time that devastated their opponents?

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Blitzkrieg was like the American football play of the same name. If you don’t win real fast, you tend to find out that your motorized units are beyond reach of your supply lines. Then they get cut off, and the whole thing can collapse rapidly.

The Ardennes offensive was pulled off in 72 hours by using the powers of methamphetamine. Seriously, the German army issued a lot of meth to the troops. Imagine what would happen to the combat effectiveness if they had to keep fighting at that pace for a while.

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Germany lost by declaring war on the United States on December 11th 1941.

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By then, the Battle of Moscow already had winter blizzards setting in, and Germany would be pushed back within a month and start losing from then on. The British had already tossed the Luftwaffe into a wood chipper through the Battle of Britain. The Bismark had been sunk, and that signaled that Plan Z, a plan for building a German surface fleet that could challenge the Royal Navy, was crumpled up and thrown in the toilet.

It may not have been obvious at the time, but in hindsight, Germany was already set to lose. The only question was how and when. Maybe Russia overruns all of Germany and then effectively controls France. Maybe there’s a negotiated peace before that happens. In any case, Germany was going to come out worse than it went in.

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This was a serious mistake, yes. And Barbarossa was another serious mistake.

But I think that Germany was still destined to lose the war anyway, because they were running out of oil and getting out manufactured. And the United States was going to find a way to enter the European theater one way or another.

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1 point

You mean the Red Army?

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47 points

Hitler ended up firing most of his generals. Then he shot himself.

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46 points

Hitler’s best generals tried to kill him.

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15 points

Unfortunately this did not happen very quickly. The years leading up to it were pretty awful.

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43 points

“Bad ones, weak enough to listen to me”

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Exactly, sure ones that just don’t let him do dumb shit would be nicer but its nice to know that if he does somehow succeed in becoming a dictator he’s going to speedrun his way to the coked up hitler making terrible micromanaging decisions stage. Should be enough to balance out the brute force of the US armed forces when the rest of the world is trying to defend itself.

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