316 points

The Madison Square Garden rally, operatic in its repulsive bigotry, will almost certainly alienate more voters who might have voted for Trump.

Will it really? Is there someone out there who didn’t know until this event that he was a bigot and an awful person and is now going to change their mind?

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150 points

You know what’s crazy? That answer is almost certainly yes.

I live in a red area and more and more people are starting to see some cracks

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100 points

As great as that is to hear, I have to wonder under what rock those people have been living up to now.

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79 points

Honestly, I kind of get it.

I’m very attuned to keeping up with what is happening in the world, at least at a base level. The number of people I’ve met who just dont do that is staggering. The other day I ran into someone who didn’t know what happened on J6. Maybe they were playing dumb, but I didn’t think so.

The reason i kinda get it is because this shit is depressing. I would love to be able to just tune out everything political related and only see feeds relating to my hobbies and just be totally ignorant of how fucked everything is. I guess some people saw that opportunity and took it.

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5 points

Millions and millions of people just don’t vote.

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17 points

In my neighborhood, I’ve seen some houses take down their Trump signs. Dunno if it means anything, but I don’t think I had ever seen that before.

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12 points

Ohhh don’t you go giving me hope like that…

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14 points

I live in a Southern city. I shop in nice stores that are advertised in Garden & Gun.

They are selling Reagan Bush ‘80 and Reagan Bush ‘84 swag.

That is a dog whistle to say “I’m not down with Trump, but it’s not because I’m not conservative”.

There are serious cracks.

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7 points

Harris HQ did a lot of things right and Trump HQ got locked in either doubling down and becoming more pronounced fascist (like here) therefore risking moderate republican votes or becoming too boring and letting people see through their incompetence and Trump’s senility when they aren’t caught up blind from constant MAGAtation.

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5 points

I live in a red state and I saw a jacked up truck flying a full size giant Kamala Harris flag the other day, my jaw dropped

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It’s always so interesting (or heartbreakingly depressing) for me to hear this. I have seen that to some extent where I live, although very tepidly. However, when I go visit friends and family in much more red areas I feel like I’m going into bizarro world. People are doubling and tripling down. It’s like a weird arms race or something between trump and his sycophants as they desperately try to keep up with each other in terms of bigotry and just overall insanity and/or stupidity. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that, in those areas, they ate this stuff up and asked for seconds.

It would make me incredibly happy if this was some sort of breaking point and it actually did open some eyes but having been there and seen the countless gigantic trump/Vance flags hanging from the bed of outrageously lifted pickups, I just don’t see it.

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Yeah, the “political suicide” bit is immediately questionable. The fact that this race is even close has destroyed any remaining shreds of faith in my fellow Americans.

Trump could go up in stage and rant about black people, using the hard-R; he could repeat the sexist comments he’s already famous for; he could probably even criticize Christians - none of it would move the needle. People voting for him aren’t doing so because they think he’s a great person; they’re doing it because they hate liberals.

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16 points

I think it would actually get him more votes.

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10 points

I think they are voting for him because of the things they believe he is or stands for. Let’s assume some people cherish kindness, then these people believe he is kind even if he’s obviously not. They want to believe.

They are analogously not voting for Harris out of what they believe she stands for: destroying their values, installing communism, surrendering to the Soviet Union, all on day one. Because they want to believe.

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This is also the thing I think proves that these people are stupid, although I really try to not assume these things.

Kamala is so much not a communist, she’d be considered economically right-wing in most of the EU.

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24 points

8 years later, still riding that click-generating wave of “can you believe how racist this guy is?!”

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9 points

Exactly my reaction.

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6 points

Making people aware might give more of a push to people who otherwise wouldn’t vote. It isn’t about changing the minds of maga shits.

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The first half of this skit will explain , like it is which multi-millionaire who does not respect you do you choose? The one lying that it is all fair, or the crybaby who says its not. Even with a Billion dollars Harris does not feel safe, and Trump has ro go so see Elon (who needs to be culled already). In all this voting third party is the crazy choice because?

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20 points

Holy nonsense false equivalence, Batman. Harris’s net worth (with her husband), is about $8 million, much of which comes from book sales, pensions, and the value of her home. I’ll take the millionaire who earned her assets via public service, investment, and work over the supposed billionaire who earned his assets via loans from daddy, grift, fraud, lies, and a history of refusal to pay bills.

In all this voting third party is the crazy choice because?

Because you started with a ridiculous lie to justify it, maybe? Or, alternatively, because it’s stupid and self-defeating.

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And the average american is a multi-millionaire? Like holy batman thats alot of words to say she can not relate to regular ppl. As in my Chapelle clip, one candidate embraces it, the other denies it. Guess who looks like an untrustworthy liar.

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The one lying that it is all fair, or the crybaby who says its not.

Yep, that’s the only difference between the two candidates. You nailed it!

(This is sarcasm. You’re an idiot.)

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4 points

Because Jill Stein is also a multimillionaire.

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136 points

Unless people go out an vote, it won’t be suicide. They’re just pandering to their base. The Dems need to participate and not go on good feels a la 2016.

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47 points

he’s not planning to “win” by votes…

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23 points

Yeah, but he’s not in power unlike 2016. Yes, we should watch for and be ready to react within the law to fake elector schemes, collaborating with hostile foreign interests, inciting coups and violence, etc but if we do, there’s fuck-all he can do about it. Trumpism dies with his political career. In the final stretch, let’s reject him with so many votes they can’t possibly claim another “stolen” election!

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18 points

My concern is that Trump is defeated in the election, declared is stolen, and we do react within the law to fight it, but Trump is declared President by the House of Representatives and the Supreme Court anyway. Once Project 2025 starts rolling out as policy, how many of us are then willing to start reacting outside of the new law? Most Germans were not fervent supporters of the Nazi party. They just didn’t want to get in trouble with the ruling government. Are you willing to risk your life to fight the fascists? Are you willing to risk the lives of your family? Or do you learn to survive with your head down and not make waves…

Not calling anyone out for anything, but I often have to wonder about how I would react now that it keeps getting closer to reality.

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11 points

6 senators and 121 representatives (all Republican) objected to certifying Arizona’s results in the hours after the insurrection at the capitol on Jan 6th. He also has 6 justices on the Supreme Court who have already ruled that he’s above the law. Unfortunately he doesn’t need to be in power if he’s being propped up by those who do.

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116 points

I’ve lost count of how many “political suicides” Trump has allegedly gone through since 2015… Yet somehow, here he still is…

My faith in humanity has been severely diminished by the fact his candidacy keeps surviving what in a sane world would be disqualifying events/revelations.

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Kamala is expected to prove her worth for office and cannot be less than perfect, whereas Trump is allowed to repeatedly prove how unfit he is day after day

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5 points

Some pundit had a catchy phrase for this. Trump can be lawless, but Kamala has to be flawless

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9 points

Well, nazis are kind of like a society committing suicide, or maybe a murder-suicide. So it all fits.

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115 points

That man is politically immortal. There is nothing he can do to “commit political suicide”.

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18 points

I came to say something like “too bad this guy is a zombie, smells like one too.”

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12 points

He can lose, repeatedly. But that doesn’t really end Trumpism. It just mutates the brand into Republicans who can pitch themselves as “winners”.

A big problem with Lincoln Project Republicanism is that it doesn’t refute the fundamental fascist tenants of Trumpism (the xenophobia, the white nationalist Christiandom, anti-Democratic sentiments). They just pitch Trump as on the wrong side of foreign policy (not hawkish enough on Russia or China).

So we end up with Trump on one end and Ted Cruz on the other, as our range of conservative options.

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4 points

aka “We’ve got Trump and Trump Lite, which would you prefer?”

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4 points

Do you guys have trump zero?

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2 points

Well what’s the difference?

Same calories Same awful foam Same horrible aftertaste Same miserable aroma

But the light version says the quiet part quietly.

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2 points

Things have definitely changed and there’s republicans agitating to just blow it all up and start over. The old party wasn’t great but it was at least loyal.

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there’s republicans agitating to just blow it all up and start ove

There are Republicans who lost their primaries and want their seats back. But they aren’t going to throw away Reaganism to defeat Trumpism.

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12 points

Exactly. Just like the other hundreds of disqualifying things.

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107 points

Narrator: it wasn’t

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23 points

Yeah if he was the title would’ve said, “Slammed”

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11 points

Sir, we’re calling it ‘schlonged’ now.

(Look it up, “Trump Schlonged”)

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I know where this is from, but the images of googling "Trump schlonged " would cause most people to claw their own eyes out.

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