I included the response I would have sent, were the thread not locked. This is how coward libs argue. They’re calling the well-known study by Purdue demonstrating that the US is a oligarchy a “far left news source”, for context.
You claim the US is a democracy and yet you close the thread and use your mod powers to argue and nobody can reply. Curious
Wasn’t there a founding father quote where they specifically said they needed to avoid “too much” democracy or else the masses would get empowered and use that against the business owners, or something to that effect?
I am blanking on the specifics of it but perhaps if I throw that out there someone will know what I’m talking about.
Oh lmao I didn’t even read down because I didn’t expect it to be here so early in the thread.
Tbf it is extremely egregious, the man in no uncertain terms says if we have too much democracy the people will seize the means
Probably not what you’re looking for, but Hamilyon called Democracy a disease in his final letter.
That’s pretty standard loser talk. If Jefferson had had his ass handed to him repeatedly, he likely would have penned similar shit.
Considering Hamilton grounds his support for federalism in his opposition for democracy, I don’t think so
Yeah, James Madison. Noam Chomsky brings this up frequently and one of his lectures is where I first learned, many years ago now, about the idea that founding fathers set out not to create a democracy but to protect themselves and their wealth from democracy. Runs quite contrary to what we get taught as school children.
(oops I should have read the rest of the thread but hey why not repost it here too)
—James Madison
Don’t forget the Senate was designed from the beginning as a body to represent the interests of the minority.
i love how in amerikan schools we are taught the senate was created to protect the uwu smol bean states. as if the states themselves would be oppressed. a piss poor attempt at obscuring the purpose of representation, but it somehow worked
TRIGGER WARNING, SA:
Also, not-so-fun fact, President James Madison had a sister. She was half-black. She was the daughter of the president’s father (wealthy plantation owner James Madison Sr.) and one of his slaves. I’ll let you infer the sexual assault implications there.
Not-so-fun fact 2: President James Madison had a son. He was one-quarter black. He was the son of the President and his sister-slave. I’ll let you infer the incestuous sexual assault implications there.
Not-so-fun fact 3: Jim Madison, the illegitimate son of President James Madison and his sister, was also a slave (since his mother was a slave). President Madison never freed him. Jim worked in the Madison family kitchen, and during President Madison’s presidency, Jim worked in the White House kitchen. He was there when the British burned the White House down, and was even ordered to run back into the burning building to save a flag. Jim fell in love with a white woman, who also loved him back, and for this crime, President Madison, his father-owner, sold him away to a Tennessee plantation. (It was actually Dolly Madison who ordered this to happen.) President Madison never saw his son again.
Not-so-fun fact 4: To this very day, President James Madison’s white descendants refuse to take a DNA test to prove they are related to his black descendants. His black descendants have family legends that are independently verifiable with recently unearthed entries in Dolly Madison’s diary, proving their claims.
I never though I would hate a president more than Andrew Jackson or Thomas Jefferson, but IMO James Madison was the most vile human being ever to be commander-in-chief. At least Jefferson freed all his children when he died. But Madison, the author of the American Constitution, sold his nephew-son away, an act so inhuman I can barely conceive of it.
For further reading: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/52772978
The second method will be exemplified in the federal republic of the United States. Whilst all authority in it will be derived from, and dependent on the society, the society itself will be broken into so many parts, interests, and classes of citizens, that the rights of individuals, or of the minority, will be in little danger from interested combinations of the majority. - Madison, 1788
Minority, of course, being rich people.
I really hate those authoritarian tankies so much! Now, how else can I abuse my mod powers to piss off more tankies…
