cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/46655413

The Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit arm of the Firefox browser maker Mozilla, has laid off 30% of its employees as the organization says it faces a “relentless onslaught of change.”

281 points

Regardless, don’t use chrome.

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We’ll go back to gopher if we have to, it’s time for burning chrome.

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Let’s just separate GOOG from Chrome / Chromium and Google Search completely. So that the direction of the most used browser, most used search engine and the biggest advertiser don’t circle jerk each other.

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Also, Ladybird is looking very promising, so in a few years we should have a true fourth browser engine.

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5 points

lynx ftw

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If Mozilla does become defunct, it does raise the question of whether Chrome would be considered a Google monopoly, and therefore subject to antitrust legislation.

I can’t imagine any governments would look kindly upon internet access being guarded behind a single company’s product.

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There is a new browser based on WebKit (safari), called Orion that looks promising. However, it’s only on macOS and iOS at this point. Hopefully Linux and Android will be a consideration at some point.

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Chrome’s engine was originally forked from WebKit. That makes them too similar (even years later) for WebKit to count as a real alternative.

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There’s also a new browser based on Firefox/Gecko called Zen. There’s way too many browsers based on Webkit or Blink.

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Splitting Chrome from Google wouldn’t make Chrome not a monopoly, though, right?

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The split might leave a monopoly still, if it’s the only major browser.

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I can’t imagine any governments would look kindly upon internet access being guarded behind a single company’s product.

laughs in 2001

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They could try to employ some kind of Apple defense, like, you wouldn’t hit Apple for having monopoly on iOS. As long as it’s not the only solution on the market. And for web, most of time, you could access the same resources and get similar experience by downloading… the apps… wait, they have a monopoly on that, too. Well, they are completely screwed in that case.

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Google should be subject to antitrust legislation regardless.

Their position as a monopoly is what enables this.

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The firefox browser could exist without quite a lot Mozilla does. A large chunk of its cash isn’t spent on the browser.

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I’ll just use Safari

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With privacy extensions…

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If this Firefox trend continues, then we won’t really have a choice in the matter anymore.

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You’d sacrifice your privacy because of layoffs?

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4 points

No, because there won’t be anything but Chrome.

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1 point

I’ve moved to Vivaldi recently and it’s been refreshingly not-suck.

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That’s good. Are you happy with the built-in privacy, or do you find extensions are needed?

I’d still argue it’s chromium.

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112 points

CEO first please. He’s not worth it

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It’s looking increasingly likely that the US Department of Justice is going to succeed in their antitrust efforts against Google. Currently, Mozilla gets something like 85% of their funding from Google for being the default search engine in Firefox. That may be deemed anticompetitive behavior by a judge, at which point Mozilla will be left with very little funding compared to their current situation.

I’d bet these actions are in anticipation of that happening.

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Yeah, and although it will be painful for Mozilla in the short term - it would be a good outcome. It was always bad that Mozilla’s main source of funding was from their most powerful competitor. It’s an obvious conflict of interest. And obvious way to skew decision making. … But that money is just so addictive.

There will be some pretty severe withdrawal symptoms if the money gets taken away, but everyone will be healthier in the long run… unless the overpaid CEO continues to suck in all the remaining money and leaves nothing for the people actually doing the work. That would be bad. In that case, if the corporate structure chokes the company to death, I suppose we’d be hoping for Ladybird, or something like it to take Firefox’s place.

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249 points

Gee, I can’t imagine why they chose to drop this bomb today.

It’s like they wanted it to be drowned in other news.

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50 points

It’s Mozilla. No one is going to see this anyway.

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I’m seeing it

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13 points

Why, what else happened today?

Tap for spoiler

/s

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I brought it up with my family, my tech friends and coworkers and half the them just blankly stared at like I didn’t know what was happening. Both are important, one more than the other though.

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Why the heck did Mozilla need 120 employees for anyway? I hate that Firefox is updated so often because I always get Firefox Update Fatigue. I hope that fewer employees means fewer Firefox updates.

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21 points

lol what?

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63 points

Just turn the updates off. Might want to remove the seatbelts from your car too, so annoying having to put them on and take them off every time you need to drive somewhere.

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Doesn’t work. Firefox keeps nagging me to update every freaking time I open the browser. Now if they let me turn the nagging off it wouldn’t be so bad.

I want an update once per quarter, not once per week. Only more often than that if there is a critical security fix.

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8 points

This is not even about Firefox, you griefer.

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Well this is a unique take. But don’t worry, there’s a Firefox for you, too. Try the ESR, or Extended Support Release, it

receives major updates on average every 52 weeks with minor updates such as crash fixes, security fixes and policy updates as needed, but at least every four weeks.

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