cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/46655413

The Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit arm of the Firefox browser maker Mozilla, has laid off 30% of its employees as the organization says it faces a “relentless onslaught of change.”

281 points

Regardless, don’t use chrome.

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We’ll go back to gopher if we have to, it’s time for burning chrome.

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Let’s just separate GOOG from Chrome / Chromium and Google Search completely. So that the direction of the most used browser, most used search engine and the biggest advertiser don’t circle jerk each other.

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Also, Ladybird is looking very promising, so in a few years we should have a true fourth browser engine.

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5 points

lynx ftw

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If Mozilla does become defunct, it does raise the question of whether Chrome would be considered a Google monopoly, and therefore subject to antitrust legislation.

I can’t imagine any governments would look kindly upon internet access being guarded behind a single company’s product.

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I can’t imagine any governments would look kindly upon internet access being guarded behind a single company’s product.

laughs in 2001

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Google should be subject to antitrust legislation regardless.

Their position as a monopoly is what enables this.

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The firefox browser could exist without quite a lot Mozilla does. A large chunk of its cash isn’t spent on the browser.

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There is a new browser based on WebKit (safari), called Orion that looks promising. However, it’s only on macOS and iOS at this point. Hopefully Linux and Android will be a consideration at some point.

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Chrome’s engine was originally forked from WebKit. That makes them too similar (even years later) for WebKit to count as a real alternative.

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There’s also a new browser based on Firefox/Gecko called Zen. There’s way too many browsers based on Webkit or Blink.

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Splitting Chrome from Google wouldn’t make Chrome not a monopoly, though, right?

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The split might leave a monopoly still, if it’s the only major browser.

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They could try to employ some kind of Apple defense, like, you wouldn’t hit Apple for having monopoly on iOS. As long as it’s not the only solution on the market. And for web, most of time, you could access the same resources and get similar experience by downloading… the apps… wait, they have a monopoly on that, too. Well, they are completely screwed in that case.

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If this Firefox trend continues, then we won’t really have a choice in the matter anymore.

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You’d sacrifice your privacy because of layoffs?

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No, because there won’t be anything but Chrome.

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I’ll just use Safari

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With privacy extensions…

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I’ve moved to Vivaldi recently and it’s been refreshingly not-suck.

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That’s good. Are you happy with the built-in privacy, or do you find extensions are needed?

I’d still argue it’s chromium.

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Gee, I can’t imagine why they chose to drop this bomb today.

It’s like they wanted it to be drowned in other news.

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50 points

It’s Mozilla. No one is going to see this anyway.

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I’m seeing it

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Why, what else happened today?

Tap for spoiler

/s

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I brought it up with my family, my tech friends and coworkers and half the them just blankly stared at like I didn’t know what was happening. Both are important, one more than the other though.

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149 points

Did the CEO take a pay cut?

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76 points

does a bear shit in your mouth?

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41 points

Okay I’ll learn how to make better coffee

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16 points

Damn bro, you didn’t have to roast yourself that hard

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37 points

Depends… will it generate shareholder value?

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12 points

Are you going to tell him “no?”

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Only if he stops.

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Only if it wants too

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CEO first please. He’s not worth it

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I suspect their financial position has changed. Perhaps Google’s being found as a monopoly has made them decide not to help fund Mozilla’s efforts as substantially.

Ashley Boyd lead the advocacy team, here’s the kind of stuff they were doing:

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-welcomes-ashley-boyd-vp-of-advocacy/

In fall of 2016, Mozilla fought for common-sense copyright reform in the EU, creating public education media that engaged over one million citizens and sending hundreds of rebellious selfies to EU Parliament. Earlier in 2016, Mozilla launched a public education campaign around encryption and emerged as a staunch ally of Apple in the company’s clash with the FBI. Mozilla has also fought for mass surveillance reform, net neutrality and data retention reform.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/05/mozilla-foundation-lays-off-30-staff-drops-advocacy-division/

“The Mozilla Foundation is reorganizing teams to increase agility and impact as we accelerate our work to ensure a more open and equitable technical future for us all. That unfortunately means ending some of the work we have historically pursued and eliminating associated roles to bring more focus going forward,” read the statement shared with TechCrunch.

Reading between the lines, I’d keep an eye on them collecting your data and consider one of the privacy-focused forks.

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consider one of the privacy-focused forks

The Foundation is not linked to Firefox.

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If by not linked you mean wholly owned by…

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/organizations/

The Mozilla Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, works with the community to develop software that advances Mozilla’s principles. This includes the Firefox browser, which is well recognized as a market leader in security, privacy and language localization. These features make the Internet safer and more accessible.

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Hundreds of selfies? Let’s go ahead and strike that vein bullshit from the record.

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