Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the sense of complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.

I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.

I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.

The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.

I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.

In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.

79 points

I hope for the best for your safety, sanity, and well being. Fuck this “interesting times” nonsense.

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There’s a reason people’s are cursed “to live in interesting times.”

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Me as a child:

Wow! History was horrible at times, but so interesting, too! Just imagine if we could have seen that first hand!

Me now:

No, not like that.

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I have to reply here because SDF was down for a while and federation is still catching up. I want yout to know, though, you’ve kept me laughing and that has helped me a lot, so thanks for that.

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Thank you for doing the same.

The laughter is the release and therapy we’ll be needing going forward.

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Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly.

Trump winning also supports the genocide in Gaza.

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This is very true. I wanted to address the idea that not a single outlet has touched on, though.

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8 points

Should just be pointing yes at both.

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6 points

Trump winning supports the genocide of the planet

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Be it because people on the left want to carry out attacks on their peers to falsely prove a point or…

Remember kids: it’s more important to be right than to live happily under a Presidency you don’t agree with didn’t win.

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“no one wants what is happening in gaza, but the potential genocide in north America is even higher”

Have you tried opening a newspaper recently? What is happening in Palestine is worse than anything else happening in the world; to say that your potential event could be worse than that is a tremendous display of ignorance and insensitivity.

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I, obviously, disagree here. It’s all horrible. However, I have every incentive to vote for my own well being. My point in that statement wasn’t necessarily that it would be worse (I probably should have phrased things better, but I’m no writer), but I do think it could potentially be more impactful for the “West” in the sense that the US could, potentially, devolve into a state similar to Russia (or a large number of nation states) where anyone who is not straight or cisgendered will be persecuted to the point of erasure. And in my personal case, though I know this is anecdotal, potential murder.

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You say it’s all horrible like it’s a comparable horror. It’s not. Leaving aside the fact that your described event is hypothetical (and I hope it will stay so, don’t get le wrong I fully support LGBTQ+ rights), comparing murder to planned ethnic cleansing and thousands of civilians lives lost is a negation of the horror Palestinian endure on a daily basis.

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Ethnic cleansing, orientation or gender cleansing, I see them as the same. thing. Ever have someone physically assault you for pissing? The drive for murder and erasure is literally on the same scale. The difference has been the backing of a state. Now, that may very well change. We will now have idiots with guns threatening us to to “be normal.” And no, it’s not a comparable horror… yet. I fear for my life constantly.

And, again, I’d like to posit the other meaning of genocide - cultural erasure. This, I think, is very likely.

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Trump will go along with whatever Israel wants to do. If Hamas was in power, I can all but guarantee they would be doing the same shit, if not worse.

ETA: I’m not advocating for what is going. I’m just rather pissed that so many people keep doing the counterproductive thing of using this as a reason to vote trump or sit this out. Considering that Trump is worse in this regard and with global warming, humanities only chance is to ramp up efforts like the US is a lost cause, because for the next 2 years at least, we are.

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Where have you seen that I’m advocating for Trump? I’m not even American! Every time I see someone criticizing the role of the US government in the Palestinian massacre, somebody come and says “yes but Trump”. I know trump is worse, can I still criticize the current US government or do I have to wait for the campaign to be over?

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You have every right to criticize. I really and truly do empathize with what you are saying, believe it or not. You never advocated for Trump. Things are just very tense here in the US. That isn’t an excuse, but maybe an explanation for our overall behavior.

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Well, it’t won’t be like Palestine, but KKK style lynchings, taking away the non-profit status of pro-LGBTQ+ organizations (if not jailing every member of them for “pornographic speech”), forced detrasitions, forced conversion therapies, and jail for existing in public.

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Yeah not to downplay the horror in Gaza but you might want to look into what’s happening in Sudan, for example

But I agree comparing discrimination in the US to any of this is pretty crazy

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I’m fully aware of what’s happening in Sudan, but since multiple humanitarian organisations have explained that what’s happening in Gaza is the worst they have ever seen, I think it’s safe to say that this is worse than any situation

Sources:

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Regarding ‘destruction’ I’m sure Sudan can’t compete because these people had very little to begin with, but when you compare other numbers…

  • 200k killed
  • 10m refugees

And this comes on top on the previous genocide that just ended a few years ago and killed 300k…

I’m sure you can find plenty of people saying conflict X is ‘tha worst evah’ but that’s just part of their job

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Sure those are both bad. But now we get to take bets on which country sees the first mass casualty event due to unsurvivable wet bulb temps, and we can over-under the year the first US state gets a taste of boiling alive in their own juices.

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Here in GA, we’ve gotten close. I had to quit the job I temporarily stopped working for myself for last year because of heat exhaustion. It’s bad. I fainted in 110° F temps with 89% humidity. Trump will make thus worse.

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Bottom panel should be “Genocide in Gaza AND…”

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