Poor one out for all your LGBTQ+ homies in America, they’re about to be hunted for sport.

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Do you see enough votes from any independent to get Kamala elected? Stop blaming the voters. She didn’t campaign.

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when “the candidate who wants start a fresh, new genocide” wins the popular vote, it is the perfect time to blame the voters

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And I don’t suppose it could be because people are not happy with joblessness and inflation?

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I believe that’s a huge part of it, but it sucks that those people just want trump to print more money

And the cycle continues…

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MFW I forget that people can choose not to vote at all

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Did she campaign? Did she run a good campaign? Did she go into the black barber shops, like Trump did? Did she go into the McDonald’s, like Trump did? Did she go out to meet the people, like Trump did?

She tried scaring people away from Trump and it didn’t work. They want an economy that’s doing better than this. They want jobs. They want their life to be better.

That’s how you win elections. You tell people you know how to make their lives better. You don’t tell them the other guy is going to make their life worse. That doesn’t win an election. It never has.

https://lemmy.world/comment/13289142

It gets downvotes, but it’s still not wrong.

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The thing is that she shouldn’t have needed to campaign. Trump is a big enough piece of work that he shouldn’t have been an option in anyones mind.

Putins propaganda machine made him win. The guy didn’t even have a campaign program for fucks sake.

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It is called democracy when you can’t force people to do what you want.

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A lack of accountability has been a recurring theme here. The orange man will take no accountability for attempting an insurrection, or for the hatred he encourages. Voters will not take accountability for electing a fascist.

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Democrats will take no responsibility for why they lost.

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Nor will the legal system take responsibility for not doing anything about Trump before he pardoned himself.

Nor will the Democrats take any responsibility when Trump steamrolls over their constituents.

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2 million registered PA voters did not vote.

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How does that compare to past elections?

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Trump enablers in leftist spaces are just agent provocateurs. There’s always some infiltrators

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Genocide-enabling establishment cultist can’t figure out why they lost, but sure everyone who tried to get them to see the end result if they didn’t change their tune are the the agent provocateurs.

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The one enabling genocide now will be Turbo Genocide Donny and it will be 10 times worse.

Or did you think it would stop when Trump won? Are you this naive?

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The only one being naive here is you. I don’t think it will stop cause Trump won. It will likely get worse. Democrats could have stopped it though, but their “we’re terrible, but the other guy is worse” messaging isn’t as effective as “no more genocide.”

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Two days ago i said she could have lied and won and someone got upset.

For them supporting genocide and ignoring people protest and not even speaking to them is better than lying to secure vote to stop what they call a “threat to democracy”

I also pointed out that she has different ads in Michigan and PA, and someone refused to watch the video because it was on Fox news.

These people lives in the cloud, everyone is a russian bot or troll. They never blame the Democrats that insisted on Biden even after the debate, where they could have allowed Harris to plan better long time ago.

My best is when I see Bill Clinton supporting harries in a campaign about Women Abortion Right. Like at least be a shame of someone associated with Epstein and caught lying in office.

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Agreed 100%. It’s the refusal to self-reflect and attacks on anyone who dare to question that turns people away. Not only is Bill Clinton a terrible campaign messenger, but he was chastising Arab-americans in Michigan for being against genocide. Just like Obama was blaming black men.

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Damn I didn’t know 50 leftist shitposters on the internet had so much power that they can flip an election. Maybe they should try to do what they ask if they want to win

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Are you talking about Lemmy alone? These people are EVERYWHERE over the Internet, TikTok especially. Also the reach for a post is a lot larger than the likes it gets, like upwards of 10x.

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It really isn’t leftists’ fault, though. Trump easily won the popular vote and flipped georgia, pennsylvania, and wisconsin from their dem vote in 2020. Low voter turnout/voter suppression are the real culprits - along with dems failing to do almost any of the things that could’ve changed this outcome. Leftist memes did not lose dems the election. Voter apathy and the sheer popularity of fascism did.

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Why do you think the turnout was so low? Millions of idiots were pressuring people to withhold their vote over Palestine in a colossal self-fuck. That is if you assume these people spreading that are really that stupid. Some were, but I think a large percentage were paid trolls. And their campaigning worked. Russia owns the United States now

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Yeah there are only so many times Biden can go “hey isreal, you’d better stop that genocide or else!” While doing nothing whatsoever and even giving them the weapons to continue the genocide before people go “well they aren’t going to do a damn thing about this”

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and that’s why I voted trump! /s

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It can’t possibly be because that’s a real concern. They had to be paid actors. You sound like Infowars after a school shooting.

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yeah because cambridge analytica was also a hoax

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You forgot about PISSING AWAY THE EMCUMBANT ADVANTAGE

I was saying that before Joe step down and oh look, I was right. Now I having crippling depression and I need to put myself on suicide watch.

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Do you remember the number on this “incumbent advantage”? The establishment didn’t just switch out Biden on a whim. Biden literally fucked his chances at winning at the debate. You are barking up the wrong tree

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Shut the fuck up. When you have advantages you fucking use all of win and ensure the win. We didn’t use all of them and we lost. Simple as so instead of giving your fucking useless opinion to me, go hunker down like everyone else and tell your trans and ltgbq+ “I’m sorry”

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Please don’t kill yourself. We need you for the revolution. Doesn’t matter who you are, what your skills are. If you can hold a gun or make soup, we need you.

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Just say the word

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Hey, I know you don’t know me, but I want you to know that depriving us of what you can bring will only make it worse. I’ve found that I can keep myself alive by living for the people around me. Right now what’s keeping me going is touching base with everyone, seeing how they’re doing, asking them if they’ve made any plans, and telling them about my plans to move forward. Direct action just got a whole lot harder and more dangerous, but giving up now only makes the problem worse. One foot in front of the other, until you get the rhythm, Then follow it. I believe in you.

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I appreciate it.

Fortunately I’m recognizing the signs and taking early measures. Trying to find a shrink and decide if I should move.

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Encumbant advantage? In this economic climate, it’s exactly the opposite. People who are feeling increasingly fed up with a world in which they cannot make ends meet vote against the status quo.

4 years of Trump got people to vote against Trump. 4 years of Biden got people to vote against his VP.

Biden himself would lost even harder than Kamala did.

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And where do you buy your crystal ball that proves you right?

Oh? You don’t have one? Then you don’t know and you’re speculating that Biden would have lost. We wouldn’t have known until we knew but now we never will and we all lost. I can’t wait to get hunted down for not being a white Christian man all because

bIdEn WoUlD hAvE lOsT

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Leftist memes did not lose dems the election. Voter apathy and the sheer popularity of fascism did.

I’m not necessarily attributing blame here, but I’m pretty sure that OP is suggesting that leftist memes helped lead to this apathy. Say what you will, Trump voters were excited for their candidate… somehow, despite the list of reasons not to being far too long to be listed here. But many on the left either were just lukewarm on her, just considered her the lesser of two evils, or were protest voting third party or abstaining for one reason or another, mostly over Palestine. And there were memes galore to make clear to everyone what the general mood was. It doesn’t exactly inspire enthusiasm to those that need that a lot of enthusiasm to even bother (those people are frustrating, btw). I don’t know how much it actually contributed to or propogated the apathy versus how much it just reflected the apathy already there, but a case could be made either way.

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They didn’t lead to the apathy - they pointed out the existing apathy would cost Dems the election. It’s like saying the person who said you need to wear a seatbelt caused the wreck.

You’re exactly right about people being excited for Trump and lukewarm on Harris, but that’s entirely on the Democrats for picking the platform and strategy that lost to Trump in 2016.

Harris had a notable and surprising lead when they announced Biden was out - then they changed nothing else. People didn’t just not like the candidate, they didn’t like the policies. They only changed the candidate and thought Trump was a big enough cudgel to bully people into voting even though that demonstrably doesn’t work.

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thought Trump was a big enough cudgel to bully people into voting even though that demonstrably doesn’t work.

What kinda ass country is this?

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I distinctly remember hearing about unusually high voter turnout.

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It just wasn’t blue voters.

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If Harris had campaigned on the issues she would have had so many Republican women jump ship. Just look at how many of them voted for abortion in Missouri.

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In other words, the people that refused to cater to the cultic cognitive dissonance are to blame and Democrats will learn nothing.

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