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The extremelyinfuriating part: these people vote.

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Voting causes autism, look it up sheeple.

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using the internet causes cancer, look up 5G it’s an internet thing sheeple

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I got one that’s actually true.
Part of the male ejaculate is produced in the prostate and that is also where a bunch of carcinogens end up. Ergo no fap might give you cancer eventually. Ejaculation prevents cancer!

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Damn that explains why I was diagnosed at 20. It wasn’t because women in autism is severely underdiagnosed, it was because I had only recently gotten it by diligently voting in every election since turning 18! 😫

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Caprinae exists! Look up sheeple!

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a follow might be: Do the people know better vote? Can they?

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This is the correct perspective. As it turns out, a huge amount of people that believe Bill Gates is injecting 5G chips into people absolutely don’t vote. If you recall, the first amendment nuts in the loser convoys and a bunch of the J6 defendants weren’t even registered to vote and yet they screeched election interference. For an election they didn’t even bother to vote in.

2020 was one of the highest blue voter turnouts in national history making record first time voters in their 30s and 40s.

So yes, it should be pointed out that everyday people turning out to vote against this brain rot is just as important whether or not magats and human vegetables are voting too.

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A lot of them can’t anymore though 😔

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And they breed. What’s that saying? The meek shall inherit the earth?

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This is a stupid arguments, TBH.

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29 points

There’s no argument…

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They’ve been working on a COVID vaccine since the SARS epidemic, but that fact won’t stop the stupid.

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Also, cancer isn’t one disease but a whole class of diseases. And we actually do have vaccines that prevent certain forms of cancer, like the HPV vaccine.

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I WONT LET MY KID GET THE HPV VACCINE. IT MEANS THEY CAN HAVE SEX WITH NO CONSEQUENCES

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Ma’am, pregnancy is still a consequence of sex as you obviously should know after having 5 kids.

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There is also a lung cancer vaccine made in Cuba, called CimaVax (I think).

There’s some hurdles to getting it though, depending on where you are.

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Also, the amount of computational power that was made available for COVID research was recorded breaking.

If you were on Folding@home at that time, they couldn’t get enough WU out fast enough for a while. Gamers really showed up and helped.

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Yeah, it helps when you have a mind-boggling amount of computers across the world crunching your data.

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Also, why wouldn’t they use a cancer vaccine for a “mind control” or “tracking chip”.

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I always found the tracking chip conspiracy stuff to be particularly funny. Unfortunately, I never personally met any whackos that believed it.

The best method for very accurately tracking them was the thing they likely used to post about the COVID vaccine tracking you.

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Belief isn’t needed.

MIT researchers have now developed a novel way to record a patient’s vaccination history: storing the data in a pattern of dye, invisible to the naked eye, that is delivered under the skin at the same time as the vaccine. https://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218

And Bill Gates talking about doing it in a reddit AMA.

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Yes. The Jannsen and Oxford vacancies.

However, vaccines using mRNA technology are VERY new.

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The thing that bothers me the most about (mostly right-wing) anti-covid propaganda is that they use the argument that it was rushed to market. The vaccines were rushed to market thanks to an FDA emergency provision that removed a lot of the “red tape” that companies normally have to go through to get any medical item into the hands and/or bodies of consumers.

So many right-wing politicians campaign on the promise of removing red tape and getting rid of these things that protect all of us. This is literally what they say they want.

Chalk another one up for right wing hypocrisy, I suppose…

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Chalk another one up for right wing hypocrisy, I suppose…

The only right wing value is the acquisition of power and influence, that’s why they don’t hold to any position, they will just stand wherever benefits them the most in that moment.

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And by they, you mean the right wind politicians in power.

The people who vote for them are constantly voting against their immediate interests.

If we had some sort of ranked choice, a lot of these one-issue voters might actually have a choice in their representation. Which would be good for all of us.

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What does “left wing” and “right wing” mean?

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Broadly speaking, left wing is about creating change, ideally for more equality or the betterment of all. Right wing is about conserving the status quo and traditional power hierarchies, because they are accustomed to benefiting from them.

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Also, these vaccines were not developed in under a year. There was literally several DECADES of research and testing on coronavirus vaccines (anyone remember SARS), and mRNA / adenovirus vaccine tech.

Saying these were rushed is a flat out lie.

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They were rushed in that they did rush to accelerate the development- largely through increased funding. However, that does not make them unsafe. Of course investing more into research can generally speed it up.

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The only thing that was accelerated was the scale of the tech infrastructure and the testing to target this specific variant of coronavirus. Coronavirus vaccines, and the modern technology to deliver the vaccines, was developed and piloted long before the COVID 19 started floating around.

We were lucky AF.

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Generally right-wingers oppose efficacy requirements not long term safety trials- the COVID vaccine simply did not have enough time for that. Or they oppose the FDA entirely- which is a different thing because then you could hold drug companies liable rather than them being able to lean on the FDA for protection.

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Where did you read this nonsense? The COVID vaccines are FAR more effective at preventing illness and death than the flu shot. The things we learned about mRNA vaccines made for COVID will be used to improve the flu shot and other vaccines in the future. There is quite literally no reasonable argument against the vaccines. They’re extremely safe and extremely effective.

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There is quite literally no reasonable argument against the vaccines.

I’m not making one.

I’m arguing the continued need for masks to inhibit spread and further development to protect the very old and very young who can’t benefit from them.

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This simply isn’t true, they’re extremely effective at preventing serious illness and death. Variants came along that stressed them but the main purpose of those two things has stood firm.

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they’re extremely effective at preventing serious illness and death

But underwhelming at preventing infection and spread, particularly for newer variants.

Which is why further R&D needs to continue. And people still need to mask up if they want to avoid contributing to contagion.

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Like annual flu shots, the covid shot are freaking amazing at keeping people alive and out of the hospital. Do the ensure that you won’t get sick? No. The point is to reduce severity and spread.

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Do the ensure that you won’t get sick? No.

Plenty of vaccines do. More R&D is needed. Masking, particularly during new outbreaks is needed.

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The Covid vaccines were really very effective against the original strains they were developed against. They effectively reduced the chances of infection.

By the time we got to omicron- less so, though still good at preventing serious disease

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    1. Vaccines against coronavirus have been in development for decades. The urgency for them really ticked up with in the early 2000’s with SARS coronavirus floating around. Also the tech for quickly developing mRNA vaccines has been in the works since the 80’s.
    1. HIV is a very different virus and we do have pretty good treatments to prevent infection (prep) and stop HIV from becoming AIDS. I have someone in my family that has had HIV for decades and he is going to die from old age, not AIDS.
    1. Cancer, like a broken leg, is not a virus. It’s an entirely different medical problem.
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you raise a good point. we still don’t have vaccines for broken legs either. this puts the reality of all other supposed vaccines into further doubt.

spoiler

/s in case that wasn’t clear

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Well, I’ve heard about this one guy named Logan who got a vaccine for broken bones… After he got it, he never broke a bone in his body again.

… He also got sweet blades that come out from his hands.

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Also significant parts of mRNA vaccine research were built on HIV research! Fighting HIV/AIDS directly led to the technologies that let us make the Covid vaccine possible. We really do “stand on the shoulders of giants” - we build new knowledge based off the work of those who came before us!

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mRNA vaccines yes, not more traditional vaccines like J&J- but generally true.

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There IS the HPV vaccine, which is basically a cancer vaccine for one set of cancers.

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I guess you could say the same thing about hepatitis vaccines.

HPV and hepatitis are not cancer, but they can increase the risk of certain cancers. Often times the best way to beat cancer is to limit exposure to the things that can increase the risk of getting it.

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Immunotherapy is also often called cancer treatment vaccine. And HepB vaccine also protects from liver cancer associated with Hep B.

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Also good to remember there’s also newer tech like alphafold from the deepmind project - using AI to really, really accelerate development.

https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/

Absolutely blows my mind.

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To these people an apple isn’t an orange. They can’t tell that they’re both fruit.

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Thanks for explanation.

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The worst part about this is that the MRNA tech used in the COVID vaccine was developed specifically to make cancer vaccines.

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And mRNA vaccine technology has been advancing for decades. It’s disingenuous to suggest that “it only took ten months.”

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There were also early coronavirus vaccines being developed with mRNA tech to fight SARS and MERS. I have a friend who got the MERS vaccine as part of a test group.

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And it came together with new rapid prototyping technologies for vaccines, and far better computer modeling than anything anyone has ever had before. Like, there were a bunch of technologies that just happened to be coming into maturity at almost the same time, and between those technologies and the combined powers of most of the major vaccine labs on the face of the planet, and the near-infinite money to tie all of that in a nice package, a vaccine was developed in 10 months

It’s really a story of humanity actually pulling their shit together and deciding to throw all their chips in a pile, as it were.

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I was already amazed by the vaccines’ development but this really put into perspective just how fortunate we were and how Herculean the effort was to do it. It truly is awing what can be accomplished when the tools and our collective will are combined for a singular purpose.

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They scream about it, but MRNA tech & the other advancements involved enabled us to get from zero-to-vaccine in record time, and I’m convinced that because of that, my 84yo mother with COPD is still here!

They call it conspiracy, I call that victory!

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Partially enabled. Without mRNA we still would have had J&J and Astrazenica.

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