Now that it’s clear that Harris’s really well run campaign underperformed Hillary Clinton, can we finally end the myth that some failing of her campaign strategy or “likability” was the primary reason for her loss rather than sexism and Comey’s shenanigans? It really seems like a very large number of men just won’t vote for a woman in the US.
Her campaign was awful. Her whole deal was that she was going to do more of what Biden did. You know, the guy we didn’t want to reelect so she stepped up to run? Also she pushed right the whole time. She gunned for centrist votes. She should have leaned into Walz’s policy ideas on a broader scale. In fact, walz probably would have had a pretty good chance if he were the DNC candidate. She also campaigned in the strangest places. Why on earth did she rally in Houston? She could have gone anywhere in the swing states with the Beyonce performance but she went to a city that was already going to vote blue on a state that has a moonshot’s chance to flip from red. She should have spent more time in GA, PA, and AZ. But hindsight is 2020.
Sorry, but she had a ton of hype and squandered it by saying she would be the same as Biden, would have the most lethal military, didn’t separate on Gaza, focused on small businesses instead of all Americans, flipflopped on Medicare and fracking in both the worst ways, picked a progressive vp and caged him in bad neoliberal talking points instead of adopting his hard agenda, and tried to push for a republican written border bill instead of trying to reframe the issue in a any progressive way. Most Americans, Republicans included care about immigration and ALSO agree on a pathway to citizenship.
People gave her the benefit of the doubt and she told them to accept her as she wanted to be. You can’t continue to shame a voter base indefinitely, politicians are supposed to campaign in a way that wins votes.
I mean, her campaign was pretty awful in a lot of ways. It started out strong but since the DNC it was misstep after misstep. I dunno about you, but I love hearing the president say they’ll only be different than Biden, because they’ll have more Republicans in their cabinet. I love hearing they’re going to build the wall. I love hearing them talk all the time about the fact that Cheney endorsed them. I love hearing how profracking they are. And I love their silence on the genocide in Gaza. Certainly, sexism and racism plays a role, but let’s not kid ourselves here.
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“Listen, I plan on having a Republican in my Cabinet,” Harris elaborated. “You ask me what’s the difference between Joe Biden and me, well that will be one of the differences.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/harris-sparks-outrage-admitting-biggest-185725601.html
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Both Trump and Harris say they’ll build more border wall. In this county, the parts have been waiting, and rusting, since 2021. https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/trump-harris-border-wall-arizona-rusting-2021-rcna173094
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Kamala thanks Liz and Dick Cheney, “This endorsement matters a great deal.” https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7S-Sk2TbdjE
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“Harris said she was “honored” to have the backing of such “respected” people, and touted the Cheneys’ support at last week’s presidential debate.” https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/kamala-harris-dick-cheney-endorsement/
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Harris supported the Green New Deal. Now, she’s promoting domestic oil drilling https://apnews.com/article/harris-fracking-energy-climate-trump-election-debate-1b86dfb4297facd0b89c487724a9e5b0
We’ve all elected women to all kinds of positions in all kinds of states, and even both major parties. We can’t just blame that.
That’s my big takeaway from this election. A well-qualified woman will lose to the most idiotic man possible because millions of men will just never vote for a woman. All of these people in Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Michigan all showed up for Joe Biden, and all vanished for Hillary and Kamala, despite both being better candidates.
I heard a woman I work with, whose boss is a woman say two days before an election “I can’t vote for a woman. They are emotional and make petty choices.” And I was blown away.
As the pettiest of all modern or maybe all presidents ever gets elected. LOL
“Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda,” Walsh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).
In other words “Damn right we lied to everybody! Thanks, suckers!”
I guess there’s no need to even bother wearing the masks any more. Racism, misogyny and bigotry won the day. Handily. Republicans turned out in droves to sign up for more of it, and Democrats have said they’re willing to accept it rather than elect a black woman. At that point, why even bother hiding it. Everybody knows what it is, and last night they said in pretty decisive fashion that they either actively want it or are at least willing to accept it.
We did this to ourselves. Trump made some small gains, but Harris underperformed Biden by roughly 10% or so. That means millions of Democrats sat home instead of voting for Harris, which also cost the Democrats some House and Senate seats downballot due to the lower turnout. There was no election fraud. This was a free and fair election. Trump won the popular vote. There are no excuses this time. We. Voted. For. This.
8-10 million Democrats stayed home. I don’t care if you’re “protesting Gaza”, or if you’re a closeted bigot who would rather sit out than vote for a black woman. Or whatever. If you stayed home rather than vote for Harris, you voted for this. In the words of Rush, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. And you made that choice knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.
The GOP had a damn good night last night. And they couldn’t even wait 24 hours before cramming it right down our throats. They couldn’t even wait 24 hours to take the mask off. Give it a couple of days and I figure the national abortion ban will be the next thing they don’t bother trying to lie about any more. Why bother trying to hide it? We already said we’re cool with it.
Don’t forget that the Latino vote for Trump went from 25% to 45%.
The dumb bastards voted themselves into being deported and don’t think Stephen Miller is going to have a soft spot for people here legally.
Hes gonna come for them all.
Well technically I don’t think you can vote to deport yourself since you need to be a citizen to vote federally.
Now voting to have your friends and family removed, now we’re cooking!
The plan has already been written for him
And I don’t think they’re gonna worry too much about who they catch up in their dragnet that’s legally here
For real. ~45% of them deserve to be round up into camps or deported. That’s what they voted for, after all.
This is sort of beside the point you’re making, but a lot of 1st/2nd generation Latinos still look down on immigrants. “We did it the hard way, so they should have to as well” similar to bootstrap mentality.
It’s some real mental gymnastics, but I’ve had several latina girlfriends over the years and some of their families were poor or super well off, but they openly hated Mexicans and/or Puerto Ricans.
That number isn’t really that surprising.
It blows my mind. But it’s the reality. In an ideal world every minority should be against Trump. But this isn’t the world we live in. There is a huge amount of immigrants who are coming from ultra conservative society.
Some latino who are well established will happily kick the ladder so that other can’t come in.
So it’s not super surprising. Homophobia and racism isn’t only a white people’s thing.
Blame everyone but Harris huh?
She, along with Hillary, never once bothered to try getting Stein voters to switch to her. It was both their downfalls. Trump did all he could to get RFK voters to switch to him.
I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong. But Trump won by far more than Stein pulled away from Harris (Outside of maybe Michigan). Even if she did court those votes, it probably wouldn’t have mattered.
But last night wasn’t the result of a political miscalculation that they realized in hindsight. She underperformed when compared to Biden by roughly 10%. 8-10 million Democrats that voted last time opted out this time. That’s a shellacking. 8-10 million people said “I’m not going to vote for Trump, but I’d first step aside and let Trump win anyway over voting for Harris.” There was nothing she could have done to win them over. Her campaign was doomed from the start. She just didn’t know it at the time.
I will note at the rate things are going Trump has like a 85% chance of beating his 2020 numbers and a small chance of beating Biden’s 2020 numbers. It’s not JUST Harris poor turnout.
(Also her turnout was only bad by 2020 standards, it’s still higher than John Kerry or Gore or Hillary)
A guy at work today said he wasn’t worried about prop 3 failing because he has a medical Marijuana card. Like, dude, you’re a brown man on a list of Marijuana consumers and the modern day nazis just got elected and now wield the fbi and DEA with no guardrails. He’s fucked and he refuses to see it.
It’s all Harris’s fault everyone so definitely do not blame the absolute human garbage who didn’t vote even knowing the stakes
Trump got more votes than every other party combined. I blame the Trump voters.
Mutual aid will be more important than ever, join and build up your local groups if you’re able, it will pay off in dividends in the coming years.
This election has only proven how electoralism cannot be relied upon, it’s just us now. We need to build the world we want to live in, without corporate influence.
- Search your local area + ‘mutual aid’.
- Help your local food not bombs.
- Create a worker owned cooperative with your friends if possible, or join an existing one.
- Help spread the meshtastic network to build up communication resilience in your community.
- Plant trees in your community to help reduce the heat island effect for the coming heatwaves.
- Create or join a community garden near you to bolster food availability and foster connections with those around you.
- engage in guerrilla urbanism, make your community safer to walk or bike
- encourage your coworkers to unionize under the IWW, contact them for help on how to unionize your workplace.
- vote in your local elections to try and have a state or city government that is less hostile to the above actions, but continue to build decentralized power independently of them regardless. Do not make the mistake of handing off the responsibility to make things better to them, it’s up to YOU, and your community, and hopefully other nearby communities doing the same, but that is all.
We have tremendous collective power if we just use it, and hopefully this outcome will result in us coming together and building that world in the shell of the old. Collective solidarity is our only solution left.
Already have some solar powered meshtastic nodes up in my area. Gonna get some folks on it in the coming weeks and months.
Pretty sure they’re joking. Not sure how much, but that seems to be the tone they’re giving. “Oh yeah let’s do the thing they said we would haha”. It’s not very funny but it’s like someone getting a gun and saying “Time to shoot up a school hurr hurr”
Not that that makes it any better, but still. Something important to keep in mind, you go blasting this around with “look he said it!” And they’re just going to laugh at you for believing getting upset.
Edit: I’m not saying that this is okay at all but the guy in the article definitely has the tone of “oh yeah let’s tell them we are gonna start up the murder machine out front” I understand that there are a lot of people that do stick to this rhetoric. But I pretty much guarantee that in the context of this article it’s bait to get people to go “he said he’s gonna start up his murder machine!” And then they’ll go on some rant about liberals or whatever else.
The guy is still probably an absolute shithole but you need to be able to recognize when they are setting people up for a punchline that furthers their agenda.
It’s just like the church guys who stand outside with the old “god hates (slur)” signs. They believe it, but fighting them or screaming about it just pushes their agenda. Condemn them, call them out, but hysteria just gives them ammunition.
Additional edit: idfk man. Scream it from the rooftops if you want to. Clearly something needs to be done about this shit, but I can tell straight off from this article that it’s just a tee-up for them to go “look how dramatic the snowflakes are” or whatever bullshit they’re spewing this week. Fuck these guys, and all the bullshit they want to pull, but playing into their hand like that is hard to avoid.
Have you learned nothing in the past 9 years? These people have been telling us who they are and what they plan to do, BELIEVE THEM! Giving them the benefit of the doubt or saying they are joking is just allowing them to continue to move the goal posts. We just gave the Presidency to a man that has been telling us he wants Nazi generals, cops to have a “purge day” of American citizens, wants to use the US military and National Guard against citizens and he 100% meant all of it. And we just granted him the power because the media and apologists continue to give these Fascist assholes cover.
/rant