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Are the straights alright?

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Idk that could just as easily be lez

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Like there aren’t any non hetero goth mommies

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Honey, my middle and high school years were spent among bi and gay furry girls that would talk like this all the time but also they would scratch and hiss at each other.

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Am I the only one thinking this is fake because its a 32MB file?

Email usually caps out at 25MB…

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38 points

Its not 1980 anymore.

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Depends on your provider, theoretically you could also send a few gigs

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Yeah but I thought the consensus was 25M.

Which provider allows more than? 25M?

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Microsoft 365 allows admins to set the maximum to 150mb, but it’s rare that anyone would

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50mb is a somewhat standard limit anymore

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Do you have a reference for that? Gmail is 25…

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Gmail can receive 50mb files even though it can only send 25mb files

365 supports up to 150mb files

A lot of organizations (such as colleges like this one) set their limits to 50mb

On an anecdotal note, I always set at least 50mb limit for the organizations I manage in 365.

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Not in gmail

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25MB is “the” limit because gmail is basically the email provider.

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6584?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop#zippy=%2Cattachment-size-limit

If you send an attachment above 25 it makes it a gdrive link

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There are other mail providers as well. Not sure about the limits though

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For schools, self hosted Ms office is the norm, so idk if Gmail limit is in effect.

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This dude is still down there trying so hard to prove he is right lol

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They’re technically half right though. Gmail does have a native send limit of 25mb, and anything above that will be a drive link. They can just receive larger ones and other services like 365 have higher limits available.

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You guys don’t know what you’re missing.

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Asks for notes

Receives notes and fetish shit

I’ll be glad to miss out lol

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This is what kids call goth now?

Goth used to be all Satan and death and sometimes kittens.

Is it all kittens now?

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Goth is now just what the E-Girls with black lipstick call themselves. Gone are the days of Bauhaus, true Goth is with Bela Lugosi now.

Same happened to punk, just 20yr ago. And it’ll happen to your subgenre!

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No true Scotsman…

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Not one.

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Nah, real goths are still around. We still listen to all the classics, and most of those genres are still alive and have newer albums. Some of the newish (or thriving) goth genres are: minimal synth, witch house, neofolk, dark jazz, dark trap, deathstep, electropunk/synth punk. We’re just lurking in the shadows, which is kinda an obvious place for us to be when you think about it 😉

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Deathstep is dupstep but by vampires?

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pretty sure goth died to EDM in the 90’s. it was a weird transition, too. from somber to dark rave, and it happened really fast. probably in large part due to the matrix movies and hot topic.

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Didn’t Trent Rezner start producing electronic music/become a DJ?

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Sure, goth music is pretty varied now. If you look at the bands that play at Wave Gotik Treffen you’ll see a lot of variation: https://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/english/past.php That just means it’s a vibrant scene, there are still traditional goth bands though.

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Oh I know it isn’t “dead dead,” good shit is still being made, lot of it actually, and there’s some good gothy music being made too albeit more synthy stuff, but they’ve been bastardized from their original forms to the point of unrecognizability in some circumstances to the degree where people’s favorite “punk band” is My Chemical Aromas or some such nonsense.

I just personally think that rather than attach themselves poorly to an already developed subgenere/subculture, they should just call themselves their own thing. It’d be like if I said I’m a country star but all I do is spoken word, “no, you’re a spoken word star, and that is fantastic, but country music is one thing and you are another.”

Frankly imo, that is the charitable way to view it too, because otherwise I’d view them to be like the “punk” version of dudes in cowboy gear and silverados on their way to their accounting jobs.

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Oh for sure, but musical genres are different for a reason. Much of what is claimed to be punk these days is simply “a different genre,” and it should be ok to be “a different genre than punk.” You can see it as gatekeeping all you like, but My Chemical Romance (commonly claimed to be punk in my area by the people who I am talking about, “those who don’t know what they are talking about”) is as punk as Buck Owens (nobody makes that claim, I use him to point out the ridiculousness of everything having to be specifically punk regardless of the actual genre.)

Just call yourselves something else if you are something else, just like you would with everything else. You don’t hear me claiming Discharge is the best goth band around, do you? I’m not proclaiming to be a goth because I like D-Beat am I? So why am I the asshole for expecting others to learn the differences in genres and subcultures? What, all heavy music and black clothing is the same to you? That’s subcultureist!

(Btw if it isn’t clear that this debate in which I am correct is as serious as pineapple on pizza, it ain’t that deep. I’m still right though, you can be free to have your own thing without claiming to be something you’re not, it’s ok, it’s actually better!)

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I love me some 1970s British Punk

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Hell yeah me too (but if we’re gonna have this fight, Iggy started it! Lol). I don’t mean to say that there aren’t punks still, or good shit being made, but you gotta know where to find it and people who claim to be “punk” have to pass a litmus test to find out if you’re the same type of punk as eachother (which is to say, of newer stuff would you rather listen to Vivisected Numbskulls or My Chemical Romance (or whatever those kids are into these days, idk because it is also a decidedly different genre people just proclaim to be punk and then you get called a gatekeeper because you recognize the difference in musical genres, fuck it I guess Buck Owens is punk too then.)

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Punk scene is still active in my area and they are based af. Some Nazis tried to get in the scene and they were stomped away.

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My area has a bit going on too, and kicking out nazi punks is par for the course, but that isn’t what I’m talking about. I’m talking about people who’s “favorite punk band” is like my chemical romance or a day to remember, which are not punk.

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They dont call themselves Goth, they get called Goth, as Seen in the meme

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X to doubt.

Dated one. Got stuck with them during the pandemic matter of fact. They most certainly do call themselves goth, because thick makeup in the style of “internet” and a pair of fishnets makes one goth now.

Sad state of affairs at the Ministry fan club.

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I mean, can be both.

There’s an insta model who’s full Goth/Satan to the point of having a Leviathan Cross on her insanely large fake tits and I had to at least shrug that she’s doing the full “Goth Bimbo” aesthetic… Like, full Satan Worship and evening full on committing sins of Lust and Pride at the same time.

Duel welding Sin.

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