rofl. apple stole their gui from xerox, so I guess he knew how it worked.
still failed, rather epically
He died, all right. Never letting go of his bullshit, whether it was alternative medicine or whatever.
He’s been raised to divinity almost. Even now, not a month goes by when some major outlet would write a story on what a genius he was, same goes for hackernews.
Odd that had he lived, you’d be seeing him on Joe Rogan or posting some antivax bs.
I miss when Steve Jobs was the most overtly garbage trashman in the tech industry. Well, at least he’s resting peacefully in hell.
Fun fact: Android is older.
Technically correct, but it was originally aimed at Blackberry. https://www.pcworld.com/article/464050/original_android_prototype_revealed_during_google_oracle_trial.html
Apple pioneered a moderately useful mobile browser and fully touch screen UI (except for the home button).
They’ve been copying each other ever since, to the point where I watch the WWDC keynote thinking “they didn’t already have THAT!?” most of the time.
Android was not aimed at blackberry. It was to be a completely new phone OS from the ground up and add extensive capabilities to the phone world over what the blackberry (the most popular phone at the time) could. Yes the G1 had a similar form factor to the most popular phone at the time and it wasn’t even the only form. The phone in the picture was from prototype stage and never shipped in that form factor. The shipping go had a screen and button under it. The screen slid sideways to reveal a keyboard. The Motorola droid was the most popular android phone when they actually shipped. I had a droid and a coworker had a G1. Development problems and companies scared to gamble on a radical new product delayed Androids launch behind iPhones. Apple did a fantastic job of developing the iPhone in secret, knowing the Android was coming.
To this day whenever I hear people say Apple invented the smart phone I sigh. Maybe that’s technically true or not depending on how you want to count it. But what irks me is how people think it was brilliant. Like bro, I was browsing on the go with my Zune and PSP years before the iPhone came out. The only things we can thank Apple for are the two worst parts of a smart phone. Apps and the phone.
Yes, Zune! Had one of those, a Palm TX and a PSP Design wise? Apart from cellular connectivity the Palm TX is pretty similar to an iPhone imo. More of an upgrade really, even though it released several years before the original iPhone.
Had a built in stylus, 312 mhz processor, touch screen, Bluetooth, Infrared, Wifi, flip cover (which took smartphones a while to adapt to) 128 MB ram just like iPhone, 480×320 screen like iPhone, heck even a Nes emulator. It’s so similar that I really feel like Apple took note, even had its own Palm OS.
And it releases 2+ years before the iPhone… if only they were hyped more and had access to cell networks.
When the first iPhone released I paid virtually no attention bc I’d been having devices that did similar and more for a while already
Heck the TX even had an App where you could select virtually any T.V and use it as a remote via IR, can’t do that shit on an iPhone even today
Oh, and expandable storage via SD cards. Idk how we downgraded
More like Apple copies an android feature that is more than a decade old then claims it as some kind of innovation.
Now they do, but the iPhone was revolutionary when it was released. Apple literally changed the world with their invention.
slaps a buzzword on it and makes a trillion. Can’t believe some iphone users consider widgets modetn
Steve Jobs was the Elon Musk of his time, he just died too soon for everyone to see him for the villain he was.
Woah; that’s just so wildly inaccurate; I have no idea what to even say.
Are you really saying Jobs was a transphobic right-wing extremist whose father got super rich and helped him to just buy into uprising companies without really doing anything by himself?
He did father a child he denied to the day he died, intentionally screwed Woz out of his fair share of the apple fortune, killed himself by treating cancer with quackery. Jobs is probably more self made, but that’s about it.
He did not deny her until the day he died. She even lived with him during highschool, and he named a computer after her, even though he made up a bogus acronym to pretend that wasn’t his motivation.
Woz was worth $500m at one point and is worth $100m today. It’s not like he was cut out of the game, he just wasn’t interested in money or success the way Jobs was. Without Jobs drive for success, Woz would never have shared his inventions with anyone, it was just a private hobby to him.
Steve was definitely an asshole, but there are plenty of valid criticisms to levy at him, you don’t need to misrepresent anything.
Jobs is probably more self made, but that’s about it.
I just gave you some pretty major differences. To me, most things that defines Musk as the horrible person he is aren’t true for Jobs. Again: The extremist position, transphobia, the fact that he bought into his companies and didn’t actually invent these things and made these breakthroughs by himself (which is just not true for Jobs, even if you have reasons to not like him), that he just got his money by his father’s mine and hasn’t made such successes by himself, etc. All of that doesn’t apply to Jobs.
Those things you mention are just… cases of him doing awful stuff; most of them not even related to Musk in any way. But if “he did awful stuff” is enough to set him on the same layer as Musk, then he is also “the same person” as a good share of all people living.
That’s true, he was not nearly as bad as Musk. I was mainly talking about how he’s a general asshole who steals from others and is revered by techbros. I was maybe being a bit hyperbolic in my comparison.
I don’t necessarily agree with that, but I get this point (in contrast to how you phrased it before), so fair I guess.
But just one thing:
is revered by techbros I actually don’t know any people who revere Musk. I know this is dependent on the bubble, but at least with Jobs being generally seen pretty favourable and Musk seen extremely unfavourable by most people, I think there’s a big difference.
Steve Jobs did at least actually do things. Musk just buys things and claims he did them.
Didn’t Musk start SpaceX? That’s, at least, one thing. Too bad he can’t stick to it.
Nah Jobs didn’t do anything himself. From Wozniaks first computer up to the multitouch display for the iPhone, all of these things were just bought/stolen/copied. Jobs just knew how to put these technologies into something that would sell.
I feel like he had a part in the first apple. Wozniac did the work but Jobs sold it. Selling and marketing are not easy and a different skill set. I’d be curious what Wozniac has to say about it though.
Jobs insisted on removing the keypad from a smartphone. He didn’t make the multitouch display, but he did force app developers to take it seriously.
He was a visionary who was able to see the applicability of new technology, and was able to force his will for better than the standard upon people who would otherwise have thought the improvements impossible. The guy was a fucking jerk, that’s true, but he also completely changed the world with his vision. To say he was nothing more than a Musk, or a thief, is to be disingenuous.
Jobs insisted on selling a touchscreen-only smartphone. Turns out, he was right on that one.
