Hello everyone,

We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy.

We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won’t help us now.

Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this.

Edit: @Striker@lemmy.world the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn’t his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance.

But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what’s next very soon.

Edit 2: removed that bit about the moderator tools. That came out a bit harsher than how we meant it. It’s been a long day and having to deal with this kind of stuff got some of us a bit salty to say the least. Remember we also had to deal with people posting scat not too long ago so this isn’t the first time we felt helpless. Anyway, I hope we can announce something more positive soon.

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Fuck these trolls

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troll is too mild of an adjective for these people

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How about “pedophile”? I mean, they had to have the images to post them.

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“Terrorist”. Having the images doesn’t mean they liked them, they used them to terrorize a whole community though.

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Yeah, this isn’t just joking or shitposting. This is the kind of shit that gets people locked up in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison for decades. The feds don’t care if you sought out the CSAM, because it still exists on your device regardless of intent.

The laws about possessing CSAM are written in a way that any plausible deniability is removed, specifically to prevent pedophiles from being able to go “oh lol a buddy sent that to me as a joke” and getting acquitted. The courts don’t care why you have CSAM on your server. All they care about is the fact that you do. And since you own the server, you own the CSAM and they’ll prosecute you for it.

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And not just the instance admins would be at risk as well. Any time you view an image your device is making a local copy of it. Meaning every person who viewed the image even accidentally is at risk as well.

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Sounds like a digital form of SWATing.

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Yeah honestly report all of those accounts to law enforcement. It’s unlikely they’d be able to do much, I assume, but these people are literally distributing CSAM.

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That’s not a troll, CSAM goes well beyond trolling, pedophile would be a more accurate term for them.

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A person who is attracted to children is an evil and disgusting person, someone being a pedophile isn’t just “liking something”, they are a monster.

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Simply having it to post makes you culpable. It’s way beyond trolling.

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I’d say the proper word is ‘criminal.’

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Yeah. A troll might post something like a ton of oversized images of pig buttholes. Who the fuck even has access to CSAM to post? That’s something you only have on hand if you’re a predator already. Nor is it something you can shrug off like “lol I was only trolling”. It’s a crime that will send you to jail for years. It’s a major crime that gets entire police units dedicated to it. It’s a huuuuge deal and I cannot even fathom what kind of person would risk years in prison to sabotage an internet forum.

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My thoughts exactly, like if they were just spamming goatsee or something, that would be one thing…

But this raises several questions, and they can only have grimdark answers.

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Dont forget they are doing this to harm others, they deserve the name “e-terrorist” or simmlar. hey are still absolutely pedophiles. Their bombing out a space, not trying to set up shop.

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I would definately agree that this would very likely count as cyber terrorism, and if it doesn’t it should.

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51 points

Criminals.

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Trolls? In most regions of the planet, I am fairly certain their actions would be considered criminal.

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To be fair, that is exactly what trolls did in the wild west days of the net. Back when not many people had home computers, much less the internet. CP and gore, the proverbial shit flung by the troll chimps.

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The Internet is essentially a small microbiome of beautiful flora and fauna that grew on top of a lake of sewage.

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Yeah, back in the Limewire/Napster/etc days, it wasn’t unheard of for people to troll by relabeling CSAM as a popular movie or TV show. Oh, you wanted to download the latest Friends episode? Congrats, now you have CSAM because a troll uploaded it with the title “Friends S10E7.mov”

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What’s CSAM

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Child sexual assault/abuse material

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Child sex abuse materials

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Honestly why can’t we just say what it is instead of giving every-fucking-thing an anagram that people have to ask what it is in the first place.

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*acronym

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*Initialism. Acronyms have to be words, like ACORN or RICE.

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I think it falls into the category of, given bad thins new lesser bad words so it doesn’t sound so bad anymore. Because the old word made people fell bad. I have noticed it more and more online especially with stuff that is related to sex, it is ether new words or replace the middle with *.

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You’ve got it backwards, it’s completely the opposite. The old terminology associated it with something that is perhaps perverted but totally legal and done by consenting adults. CSAM makes it 100% clear that this is illegal behavior/activities that creates child victims.

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idk why you’re being downvoted. no one else seemed to want to reply. just downvote and move on. seems like reddit lives on in lemmy afterall.

That being said, this generation of people is soft. they can’t even say the words.

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This is what it is, though. The entire point of switching to the term “CSAM” is because it more accurately describes the content as abusive.

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I think they’re asking people to type out child sex abuse materials instead of CSAM. It’s not a common enough acronym that people know what it means without explanation. As evidenced by every post using CSAM having someone ask what it means.

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I think most platforms will block “CP” too and also that kinda fucks up talking about Cyberpunk

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Bless you for not knowing. It’s the more accurate description of what was called child porn. It stands for child sexual abuse material.

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More accurate to what it is, CSAM describes it as what it is, abuse material.

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That sucks! I saw one of these things and reported it. If you need moderators for when it opens I’m willing to help.

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Same, there was some uncensored NSFW post that had a text portion at the end mentioning the age of the person in the clip. Reported that shit immediately

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FFS this is so messed up.

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Thank you for your work.

That also means that they could post to other communities, so I guess moderators need to be vigilant

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Is there an app or anything that can make a notification if anyone posts anything to a community I mod? Am I able to turn of image posts?

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For image posts, ask your instance admins (as you are on LW, they are probably working on something)

For notification, not that I know off, but I guess it might be possible using RSS

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Thanks so much! I appreciate the help!

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Please get some legal advice, this is so fucked up.

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