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It’s paywalled and sci-hub doesn’t have it.

There’s something very weird about the numbers:

34,893 men and 46,440 women … 2783 deaths (1838 men and 945 women)

30% more women in the study but only half as many deaths? That doesn’t make any sense. There’s something very wrong with the sample or the follow-up or both.

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Plus all the variables in the lifestyle associated with different diets. Diet soda probably doesn’t actually cause weight gain, but people turning to diet soda probably eat poorly already. This also only seems to show food intake percentages but not the total calorie intake. So do the high carb eaters just eat one potato per day? And the high fat eaters 6lbs of pork? This a multi dimensional problem needing more data to find the real trend. I mean, people with gun permits have a higher chance to be shot by a gun. Is it because the permit shoots the? Or is it because permit holders are more likely to be in a place where guns are more common?

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Oh shit I stuff myself with pasta bread and potatoes I must be immortal.

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How much of that is them eating nothing but meat

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fine print reads: paid for by the Bakers United Association.

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Is this a joke or is it actually industry financed? This article doesn’t mention that and neither does the freely accesible part of the original study (though I don’t have full access).

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It is a cynical commentary on unreliability of such reports. Bakers are always cooking up something.

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I’m a little surprised by how much incredulity there is in the comments here. It’s amazing that anyone, let alone so many people right now, would think that taking away all the most protective foods (ie., plants in their whole, intact forms, which are almost invariably high carb), and in most cases replacing them with the very substances most strongly associated with our number one killers, cardiovascular disease and cancers, (ie., animal flesh, dairy, and insane amounts of saturated fats), and act surprised when it kills them faster.

https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/articles/2020/10/07/13/54/very-low-carbohydrate-and-ketogenic-diets-and-cardiometabolic-risk

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Low carb diets do not neglect vegetables, if you’re eating a proper low carb diet then about half of your food volume should be coming from things like broccoli, cauliflower, and spinach. https://www.thekitchn.com/10-vegetables-that-are-lower-in-carbs-than-you-think-253337

Low carb diets still eat about 50-75 grams of carbs a day, and that’s a lot of broccoli.

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I did a keto diet for about a year. Every meal was about 2/3 veggies. The problem with low carb diets is most people don’t do them healthy. They see that certain things are listed as ok to eat and they just eat that and don’t follow a balanced regimented diet.

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That’s what I try to explain to my friends. Keto can be looked at two ways.

Red keto - mostly meat, eggs, cheese

Green keto - getting a majority of nutrition from vegetables and avocados, etc

The red keto diet isn’t as good for you as green keto is.

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