An update to Google’s privacy policy suggests that the entire public internet is fair game for it’s AI projects. If Google can read your words, assume they belong to the company now, and expect that they’re nesting somewhere in the bowels of a chatbot.

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Yet they attempt to prevent any web-scraping of their services. Interesting.

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All for me and none for you

The classic motto of a company that’s simply too big and is asking to be broken up.

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I expect every AI company is doing that. At least Google is being honest about it.

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That’s the ugly truth. There’s plenty of reasons to be upset with Google, but this ain’t it.

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𝕱𝖎𝖓𝖊! 𝓛𝓮𝓽’𝓼 🅂🄴🄴 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕞 ѕ¢яαρ 𝔱𝔥𝔦𝔰!

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Oh, hey cool - look guys, more recaptcha fodder!!

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Not sure how they can enforce their terms and conditions on me when I don’t use any of their services?

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It’s not a TOC, you don’t have to agree to it. They’re just kind of telling you what they feel like they can get away with. I don’t see anywhere in the new terms where they outright assert that they own it though, but they just kinda say “Yo, if we can see it, we’re going to use it to train AI”.

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That’s what Google does with search and advertising, isn’t it? They take everything they can see and use it to make money.

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They don’t need to enforce anything, you do. If you post anything onlline, they’ll scrape it. If you have a problem with that, the onus is on you to enforce your copyright (if you have it)

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This has been discussed elsewhere, and by people smarter than I, but chat bots are going to start learning from other chat bots and it’s going to be less and less reliable over time, no?

Like there is an internet BEFORE ChatGPT, which is about as reliable of data as one could hope to find, and then there is a post day one chatgpt, which the data is already getting polluted by random LLM gibberish. How is google’s webscraping going to know if the data it is getting is legitimate human being thoughts, or just random madeup shit from a LLM?

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There was an article recently about this (too lazy to search it). It’s already starting to happen. If most of the content they train on is the internet and more internet content is created by LLMs without being tagged as AI generated content (can’t be guaranteed by all actors), then it’s inevitable. High signal training data is out the window.

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likely they would limit training data to only include pre-2020 or earlier to avoid this

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Then you run into the problem of having outdated information. As more AI generated content pollutes the internet and more time passes the problem will only become more severe.

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There are experiments with feeding LLMs output of other LLMs and the results are awful. Seems for now they can only generate sensible text if fed human output.

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Right, but if they are training all new AI on shit they find online, like this comment, wouldn’t that pollute that dataset, considering I generated this comment with AI?

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I can’t tell if this is a joke or not lmao

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considering I generated this comment with AI?

Woah

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Your comment seems too intelligent to be AI generated.

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