The stepsister of a Colorado woman who was found dead along with her sister and teenage son at a remote Rocky Mountain campsite says the women fled into the wilderness after struggling to cope with societal changes in recent years, but they were unequipped to survive off the grid.
Exposed to several feet of snow, chills below zero and with no food found at their camp, Christine Vance, Rebecca Vance and Rebecca’s son likely died of malnutrition and hypothermia, according to the autopsies released this week. Authorities haven’t released the boy’s name.
Those reports contained another chilling detail that brought stepsister Trevala Jara to tears: The 14-year-old boy’s body was found with Jara’s favorite, blessed rosary that she gave the group before they left.
“God was with them,” said Jara
Well God could’ve fucking helped a little bit then, eh?
I always felt Wilson in the movie “Castaway” was the most realistic portrayal of God for survival situations.
Pretty much. They keep digging and talking to the few primitive groups left.
Some animals that are smart and social have funeral rites. Crows and elephants. Been known to visit locations where the dead were, leave items for their poor dead friend. A dead human and a living human are basically the same except something seems missing. We know now it is the arrangement but to our ancestors it was some component. Well if something is missing it must be out there somewhere.
Funeral sites are built. People go there and look at the little stone. Maybe the thing that is missing is in the stone. Leave items and gradually question why they are doing it. It must be transactional. Offerings develop. I give this cup of wine and you help me with my crops this year. Ancestor worship is still common around the world and why should it not be? Your parents always looked after you and you are still helping them.
The ancestor worship grew. Some ancestors were more important than others. Great warlords are still revered for centuries. Eventually morphing into a small god who protects the tribe. The small god is better than the small god of the other tribe. There must be a god greater than them all.
I don’t think god even exists. At least not the kind these poor creatures dreamed of
So you would rather God step in and make sure we only make good choices completely overriding our free will? Sounds kind of authoritarian.
Forcing people to worship an indifferent God under threat of eternal damnation sounds authoritarian too. Which flavor would you prefer for your sky daddy?
You’ll be happy to know relatively few religious beliefs have a concept of eternal damnation.
Really just two.
Yeah, well fuck them. Except the kid. Fuck them for bringing the kid. You want to escape society, fine. But bring the kid after you’ve figured out how to survive in the wilderness.
can you even imagine? in these situations the kid would be lucky if it died first. if not, the kid was kept alive by the adults long enough for it to watch the adults die, then the kid had to die alone in the tent while it waited in the cold just for nobody to come and help. poor thing. I’m terrified just writing this out.
People can’t survive in the wilderness. At least without a decent size community to support them. There are folks who make it years alone with training and knowledge, but you are always just one mistake or circumstance away from death. Humans are not built to survive alone.
Strewn across the ground were empty food containers and survival books
Please master the survival books before returning to monke.
Well ‘They watched YouTube videos’ so really what more could they have done?
“Mountain campsite says the women fled into the wilderness after struggling to cope with societal changes in recent years”
I can relate to this.
…found with Jara’s favorite, blessed rosary that she gave the group before they left.
“God was with them,” said Jara
Oh, no I can’t. Huh.
I don’t have all the details but this sounds like some very stupid campers.
I have done a lot of camping and I would be very cautious about camping “remote” in the Rockies. And no way in hell would I even dream About not taking food.
Sounds like they fucked around with nature and found out.
It also sounds like that boy was a victim of parental stupidity. I pity him.
yeah unless youre prepared to deal with the amount of snow that falls in the rockies and hunt/gather for food during that time its beyond reckless to try camping in those conditions. i knew someone that moved to alaska to do that with a buddy. they were way more prepared than these people and they came back within a year with their tails between their legs from mother nature kicking their ass.
