Being an unpaid mod of a community owned by a private company that makes money selling advertising to you based based on data they collect from you.
That’s insane who in their right mind would dedicate their time to that? And what kind of dogshit company would openly allow that to happen! Glad we’re not there is all I’ll say
“Influencer”
What is the definition of a job? I guess if someone said musician, that would be a career instead? Is a self employed contractor a job or is every client a job? Does an actor have one job or many?
I considered a revenue stream to be a job but I’m not sure now.
I guess the definition of job is vocation/occupation that generates your main financial income
Being a general manager at any retail outlet
Oh god 100%.
This isn’t a matter of life or death, Nicole. This is a Disney Store in a mid-tier mall.
it’s actually a blue collar job where they do quite a bit of physical labor, at least the good ones. I have more respect for that then a lot of white collar jobs.
You probably shouldn’t decide how much to respect someone for what job they do. Unless they do like a really sketchy or immoral “job”, like a hitman or a scammer or something.
I think the only reason to respect someone is for what they do.
What better measure is there, even if job is only part of that? better to form my opinion of people for what they do rather than the traditional historical measures.
Disagree, I think that the way someone decides to spend their time says a lot about them. Sometimes you just need to work for money, I get that, but often times people just do whatever they fell into because they’re too lazy to chase their dreams or do something actually beneficial for society
Assistant General Managers are even more serious so the sales people pick on them all the time.
In America, every job. People make it their identity. It’s the first thing they ask or tell people they meet most of the time. They make themselves what they do.
I get both PoVs. For some, it’s just a clock in clock out type thing they do just to survive and maybe pay for their other passions. For others, they spent a majority of their lives training, learning, licensing, and practicing a skillset to perform their work. It’s fairly often a large part of one’s identity and it’s not a negative thing. Though it may be a negative thing to assume someone is only their job.
But I can hardly blame someone for seeing themselves first as a scientist, artist, lawyer, or whatever.
Idk…I like my job and I’m proud I worked my way to get there. I get to see some really awesome things and I love my coworkers. Whenever I see my family, I like to tell them about interesting cases I’ve recently had.
If you work a boring shithole job then I get not wanting to talk about it. But sometimes people do interesting things that they want to talk about! :)
hell, I don’t even like what I do all that much but I like talking about it, lol. It’s interesting even though it’s not my “dream” job.
the older I get, the more I realize there’s depth to anything. whether you’re a hair dresser, an engineer, or a physical therapist. you can read and learn and get deeper and deeper into the study of that thing. anything is interesting if you’re curious about it.
I think there’s something to that statement. Hell, my old job was essentially just a form of data entry, but I managed to find things interesting with it and actually rather enjoyed it. Pay was shit tho so I went back to school to get to where I was now. But I for the most part agree with you. You can find interest in many things if you try hard enough. Not the case with some, for sure, but it’s definitely more than some people realize.
And being interested about a topic makes for a good jumping off point when getting to know someone.
LoL no. It’s definitely an Anglo thing. I had a Spanish friend that I’ve played music with for years and I didn’t know what he did until last night. I wish we weren’t so focused on thinking that our way of life must be so perfect. Work sucks, sitting in traffic sucks, yet we spend almost all of our waking life doing just that.
You’ve known a guy for years and never bothered to ask what his day job is?
You really think Americans start conversations in bars by saying, "hi, I’m a mechanic. What do you do?’ This Internet idea of what Americans do is ridiculous. Anyone who spends time (paid or unpaid) doing something they’re passionate about will talk about it.
Yup that’s totally what I think, I’m definitely European. No way an American thinks that of America.
Going strait to meeting someone in a bar says something troubling about your life.
We’re either friendly coworkers who invite other coworkers, or it’s like a meetup group of people who like something and want to do it together.
If we meet at a bar with coworkers, we can network with each other and thus later on not need to trifle with management when we need help with something. “Oh yeah, Jane built this device, lemme ask her what the polarity is supposed to be”.
Meetups with randos, we just vibe. Sometimes it’s at a bar, other times at a restaurant. We just vibe, figure out what other people’s passions and and get to know them.
CEOs and high ranking business people, what they get to do is not work or work significantly less than a working class people therefore I have no respect for most of em
The higher up you go the less work you do and the more stress you take on. You’re essentially trading your peace of mind for more money.
When you work a simple manual labor job you clock in and clock out and then go home and live your life. Work stays at the office.
When you’re an executive or a business owner you’re working 100% of the time. Something happens, you need to respond. Sometimes you need to make hard decisions where you’re fucked either way but you need to minimize damage.
You need to find solutions to problems and that keeps you up at night. Don’t have enough money for payroll next week? How you gonna do it? Not pay vendors this week? Take out another line of credit at ridiculous rates? Skip a payment on your rent? Equipment financing?
You have to do something- you stop paying your employees and the company falls apart very quickly. Could start a chain reaction of good people leaving, making the situation worse. The buck pretty much stops with you, you can’t pass off the problem to someone else.
It’s not easy to be in charge. Lot of blame rests on your shoulders if things go wrong.
Of course that doesn’t mean they deserve 10,000x the salary of a regular job. I think CEO pay should be capped to some multiple of regular employee pay. Whatever that scalar value should be 2, 5, or 10 I think is debatable. But it should be capped.
Moving from being a Product Owner, working on my own projects, to being a Product Manager who works with Product Owners on their projects/hands over projects to them, it is far more stressful. I end up being on the hook for everything, with an expectation that I know everything about a dozen projects, despite being far less actively involved in the underlying work of any of them.
You don’t simply clock in clock out. You walk into a space where everything you do is monitored and critiqued. You are constantly pressured to take on more work, other people’s work, you name it, all while you get paid the same… There’s a lot more flexibility and autonomy as you move up. The stress higher up is peanuts compared to the stress of the working class.
I’ve been at the bottom doing manual labor all the way to the top and everything in between. When I was in manual labor at 19, I thought that it was stressful. Truly. I thought I was swamped with work and was always running around with my head off like a chicken.
But now that I’m older I realize the job was dead simple. I know that because I have more experience with both life and work. If I were put in that same position today, it would feel like a vacation.
Imagine a waitress. Their job can be stressful, sure. But imagine they really fuck up and fall and break a few wine bottles. What’s the potential damages? $100? $200? Let’s say $1,000.
A CEO of even a small company can fuck up and lose millions. The problems are on a whole different scale. You will see as you move up. People think it’s easy to be the boss because they only see from the outside. There’s a price you pay in sanity.
Small business owner here. Just to add to the other responses about the stress and responsibility as you move up that others mentioned here… I cover every one of my employees when they take vacation or sick leave. So I am often doing my job, plus another person’s. It’s not uncommon for me to work 12 hour days without breaks.
