You know, I tough it might be good to fact-check this screenshot. It might be missrepresenting something. So I did a little digging and it turns out that this is based on a document provided by the Republican Study Committee (about three quateres of house rebuplicans are members).
I read the Dokument document (you can find it here) and HOLY HELL THIS IS THE WORST THING I HAVE READ IN A LONG WHILE.
It’s so full of lies, half-truths and so, so, so much finger pointing to the “woke socialist Biden Administration” (yes, that is a quote), so removed from reality… It was painfull to read. There is so much utter nonsense in that one document.
Anyhow. The headline is dead on. And it’s far far from the worst thing that they are proposing.
I need to bang my head against a wall now untill i have erased the memory of reading this bullshit.
It’s all about elimination of all federal regulations:
Rep. Bill Posey’s (R-FL) Article I Restoration Act, which would sunset all regulations after 3 years.
Require the federal government to have a “yellow pages test.” If a good or service can be found in the “yellow pages,” government should not be doing it.[14]
Fucking dinosaurs don’t realize that they haven’t even printed a yellow pages in around a decade. Last time I received one it was like 30 pages long for a major city.
Talk about pandering to their elderly base. Most Gen Z probably don’t even know what a “yellow pages” is.
the republican party head quarters are on yellowpages.com - i think they should lead by example
Yes, specifically the business phone book. The residential one was the “white pages” -a weird book that was mysteriously left on your porch every few years where everyone’s home phone (those strange bulky ones that were attached to the wall) and home address was listed. That’s what people mean in old movies when they say “I’m in the book!” It means “You know my name, you can find my phone number if you want to call me.”
Play them at their own game by listing a child starving service in the Yellow Pages.
The yellow pages test comes from a dead libertarian Austrian “Economist”. Kinda interesting since he died in 1995 and the school of economics he followed was already obsolete when it came out in the 1930s.
This stuff is part of the reason why age does matter in elected office. People get ideas and they don’t let them go even long after they have been disproven.
Because of the similarities between Republicans and the UK Conservative party, I am 100% convinced this is a collaborated narrative. They have collectively decided on which levers to pull and push because of data they have at hand. Some people have no moral compass at all when it comes to making money. And let’s face it, this is purely about backhanders and donation funding.
Rupert Murdoch owns The Sun in the UK, and Fox News in the US. That’s probably your common denominator.
https://nationalconservatism.org/natcon-uk-2023/about/ is the main link imo. Phil Moorhouse said in one of his videos that this is heavily funded by the Republican party. I cannot find that video though. I also cannot find a link with these and Murdoch. It very much looks like the UK Tories are copying the Republicans. The way they have abused the UK is no where near as bad as the stunts of the Republicans over there.
I understand discouraging it, as the free school lunches were shit and are shit that is barely edible, but banning it seems wrong. There are some places where there are kids who will eat the disgusting whatever it is they pulled from the dumpster behind the school, but I don’t think most people would want to. But also from the quotes you provided, I doubt it’s about that…
In case you are unaware, you weaken anything you want to say by purposely changing the spelling of words. It panders to those who are like minded, while pushing away those people on the fence you want to convince.
Four words into your second paragraph is where a lot of people will stop reading.
Something to keep in mind if you want to make an impact.
I am German. Auto correct changing “document” to “Dokument” (the German Word) happens easily on a phone set to German and honestly just didn’t jump at me as wrong. After all it’s how I am used to read the word.
But I am honestly curious. How does a misspelled word pander to those that are like minded? Does “Dokument” have any meaning in English that I as a not nativ speaker am not aware of?
Some people might assume that writing a word in a German style means you’re comparing the subject matter to Nazis in some way, I guess? That’s the best I’ve got
You do also know that in addition to German words being similar, other languages have similar words, right? And maybe they use the spelling they are familiar or maybe their auto correct choose the spelling in their native language. This comment is ridiculous and assumes that first off, everyone speaks English, and second, everyone speaks it perfectly.
How the hell do they want to convince people this is a good thing?
Make em think their tax money is paying for “Ni–er food” and they’ll burn down the entire education system.
Hell, replace Nword with F-word or Kword honestly doesn’t matter.
Source: What happened to all the public swimming pools after Desegregation? And That one time a Republican signed a strict anti gun law the second the Black community exercised their Second.
This town had a lovely swimming pool which was suddenly closed and filled in during the 1960s. I can’t imagine why.
I believe they referring to “kike”, a slur for jewish people.
With the degree of self censoring and the love acronyms and shortening words, it’s becoming a challenge to follow written text.
Is the fword “faggot”?
“Free meals is communist!!”
Which… If you think like they do, then socialism==communism==unamerican.
Public schools are already under that banner. This shouldn’t even be a question.
Well… it’s okay if you don’t want the job. Because I wouldn’t let you near any kids I might have if you actually have to ask that in context of free meals for kids whose only meal comes at school.
People. Society really.
What’s the old adage? It takes a village to raise a child?
As a father of a young child, there is no fucking way that one or two parents can meet all of the child’s development needs. You need everything from Farmers to grow food, teachers to teach, doctors to medicine, grandparents to grandparent, and they need peers and other people to interact with. Every one of those people plays a role, some more important than others.
People who want others to suffer will support this. This will almost only impact low income (mostly minority) populations, the kind that republic voter love to hurt
You can’t punish bad parents by punishing their children. Even if their viewpoint was right this would make no sense.
Except, Republicans love to punish the children of poor parents for the crime of being poor.
You don’t have to be a bad parent to be poor, you just have to be poor.
The USA is a deeply racist settler colony founded on doing violence to those without the privilege to escape it. The idea that someone “undeserving” might get a benefit from one’s tax payment enrages the Republican voting base which is mostly white men who make over $50k a year.
mostly white men who make over $50k a year.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/203183/percentage-distribution-of-household-income-in-the-us/
About 60% of American households cross that threshold. It kinda comes off like you’re saying people who make that much are overprivileged.
I suspect his information is out of date, $50k isn’t a lot of money but 10 or 20 years ago it was.
I suppose taxes.
I’m a republican and I fully support free school meals. We are already taxed for books, building, teachers, etc.
I’d fully support basic supplies and meals as well. It just makes sense to make sure all students have the basic needs met since we are paying for it.
Instead of defining yourself by party membership in a group that doesn’t represent you, maybe you should think about not being a member of that party?
I’m a registered Democrat, but that doesn’t stop me disagreeing with the Democratic party on plenty of issues. The vast majority of people don’t adhere 100% to their party’s politics, especially with the big-tent two-party system in the US. I can’t speak for the person to whom you’re responding, but you can’t extrapolate from their disagreement on one issue to disagreement on others.
If you only identify yourself as being Republican because you consider yourself to be a conservative then I’ve got good news for you, no need to associate with the wackos, the US Democrats are the conservatives of the countries where there actually exists a political spectrum that extends further left than right of center 👍
Based, lobby your representatives and let’s try and get the basics down in a bipartisanly
Right now my largest complaint with the republicans is they just want to stop the democrats from doing anything.
Good ideas should be pushed by both parties. The republicans are rarely pushing their own ideas. They’re just blocking other ideas.
The basic should be supplied. When I show up to work, I dont have to buy my own paper and pencil. It’s supplied.
Education is an investment in the next generation. I strongly support it.
I don’t need the government to feed my kids. But at the moment they are taxing poor workers to do so. Is that a good idea?
So maybe tax the rich? As long as there is a single person who can’t afford to feed their kids, the government should feed them.
Yes, this helps poor workers because their kids get free meals. This isn’t raising taxes on the poor.
the solution isn’t to stop feeding them altogether, but to tax those who actually wouldn’t miss any of the money used for that.
You don’t need the government’s help. I happen to know a lot of families DO. There are kids right now, in the richest fucking country in the world, who might only have one substantial meal in their day, and that’s their school lunch.
poor workers aren’t being taxed. The US has a heavily progressive tax system. Anyone making less than 40-50k pays almost nothing in taxes as a percentage of income, as compared to someone making 300k a year.
These meals help the poor and middle class the most and are paid for mostly by high earners.
Ban abortions, then starve the children. If wasn’t already apparent that the Republican Party is evil, this should make things much clearer.
Is it the government’s job to feed us? Who do i call to order my free Wendy’s
Starving children don’t learn. An educated populace is good for the economy. Feeding children benefits you directly in the long-term.
But people like you never think about things past the short-term.
Fix the broken arse country so people can afford food. But until then, don’t feed the rich kids. Your money will go further
Yes, you ghoul, you do have a moral responsibility to help feed starving children in your community. Morality is wild, eh?
That’s arguably the single most fundamental job of the government, yes.
The fucking romans had this figured out god damn.
I disagree 100%. It’s the governments job to provide a safe environment to be individually free to be successful.
And “bread and circuses” what’s a reference to a distracted demos
Food should be a basic right. So, yes. I would argue that it should be the government’s job.
In fact, I would argue that all the basic survival needs should just be provided to us free of charge. Leave money and income and working as such for earning yourself luxuries.
Anything less and you’re just forcing people to work under the threat of starvation and homelessness. And is that right?
…also were talking about literal children here. It’s not like they have a choice exactly.
I would LOVE if we could get to that system.
Everything paid for, you can sit at home all day if you want, but that will be with no luxuries.
You want Netflix and games and hobbies and whatever? Get a job to earn luxury income.
And it wouldn’t even be hard to do. We would simply have to not have fucking BILLIONAIRES. That’s about it.
100% wrong. Anything that can run out can never be a “right”. Freedom of speech can be, freedom from unjust search and seizure can be.
What happens when the money, or the food, or the houses run out?
I’m in the UK. It doesn’t matter that we have an NHS (which I am a huge fan of btw), I have zero hope of being able to use it in anything like a timely manner because it’s falling to bits. Not even healthcare can be a “right”
To feed children? Step back, take a look in the mirror, and ask yourself where you went wrong that you’re talking about taking away food from children’s mouths. You are a monster.
If you also think abortion should be illegal in addition to not feeding them, you aren’t just a monster, you’re an indescribably awful evil.
Who says I’m against free school meals. Just not distributing them in a wasteful way. Tell you what, we have the school meals, but it has one control, you have to apply. That’s it, no means testing. That would reduce the number of meals severed to wealthy children straight away.
In the UK we have a similar thing with heating bills. Old people get a heating allowance if they need it or not. You can’t chose to not have it. Let’s put the same control on there
I can afford £2 a day, happily, but my youngest gets meals regardless. In fact, these meals were a huge problem for lots of schools that were not equipment to feed the first 3 years of school entrants.
Why don’t you take a look in the mirror and ask how you can be happy garisnhig the wages of low I come workers to feed my children?
What is the governments job if it‘s not „preventing children from staeving“?
To put ovide an environment of personal safety and property rights so people can be independently prosperus. I have no issue with a welfare state, but that is not the primary function of government.
What happens when you run out of other peoples money?
It literally is, by the doctrine on parens patriae. It is the duty of the state to act in the best interests of its citizens who unable to pursue those interests themselves, whether it’s because they are incapacitated, or minors. This goes back centuries, to the time of monarchy. Our ancestors resolved the question of “who should care for the orphans?” with the simple answer, “it is the king’s duty.”
It is the government’s job, in its role as sovereign, to feed kids who don’t get enough to eat. And if it’s not, we should just burn it all to the fucking ground, because why else even have a society?
It’s a major failure of a society when people don’t have access to the basics. Basic food, water, shelter, and basic healthcare. America fails quite badly on this.
Wendy’s is luxury food however. If you want it, go earn money and buy it yourself.
You’re arguing against feeding fucking children…
Did you ever stop to think, “are we the baddies?”
Unbelievable.
You want to tax the poor to feed rich peoples children, you absolute monster
You guys will make up ANY ridiculous straw man argument to screw yourself and everyone over won’t you? You just are desperate to make everyone except the 1% stay suffering.
“you guys”?
I swear everyone in this thread is having a hallucination that I’m somebody I’m not. I presume you think I’m sort of some of red that wearing uber conservative?
Do people’s actual opinions matter at all.
Perhaps I should think you’re a communist or something and then accuse you of it?
Bread and Circuses.
You’re an evil ghoul. Evil ghouls get banished, not fed.
You have no idea about me but are happy to say I should be banished? Out of interest, how do you feel about Stalin?
It basically is in a fairly straightforward way.
In the Declaration of the Independence it states thusly:
“that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Since you cannot have Life without food, it would logically follow that it is the government’s job to (secure these rights) food for people. If it does not, then the Declaration of Independence states that we can overthrow the government.
Really no. Are you squinting at the penumbra’s? You have the freedom to pursue the production and ownership of food.
“No abortions! Those kids need to be born to starve!”
The late great George Carlin has a bit on advocating for the unborn I can’t be fucked to find atm.
The supreme Court in its June 24th ruling last year overturning Roe versus Wade argued that there weren’t enough infants available for adoption:
"“[N]early 1 million women were seeking to adopt children in 2002 (i.e., they were in demand for a child), whereas the do- mestic supply of infants relinquished at birth or within the first month of life and available to be adopted had become virtually nonexistent”);
(Pg. 35)
Note to myself if I ever get reincarnated: I’m staying in that womb no matter what 😎
I mean, if you put enough effort into disincentivizeing kids from attending to school, maybe they’ll go back to work in meat packing plants and coal mines like god intended!!
A lot of students don’t want to go to school but have no choice, both because of societal and legal pressures.
A lot of kids also don’t want to brush their teeth, go to bed at reasonable hours, or clean their rooms.
Kids don’t really get to just do whatever they want it turns out because they aren’t the best at taking care of themselves and making good decisions.
Yes, this is good. In order for society to run and all people to vote and participate in our country, we need a minimum education.
If it were about minimum knowledge than you would be able to test out of it, and those not meeting minimum requirements wouldn’t be able to graduate. But as it stands the top 10% of 8th graders know more than the bottom 30% of highschool graduates.
