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Imagine genuinely thinking that Russia blows up their own infrastructure for no reason. The fact that this is a serious topic of discussion in the west shows that any sort of critical thinking has been eradicated at this point.

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Really? They also once had a hydroelectric dam. Just don’t post…

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You mean the hydroelectric dam that even US admitted Ukraine was launching missiles against? Just don’t post…

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All the hard work you put into spreading nonsense is wasted in Lemmy. There aren’t enough users to make it worthwhile. Then again, you’d be banned quickly somewhere like Reddit, so I guess it’s your only choice.

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It’s not their own territory

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It’s literally territory they’ve annexed from Ukraine. And anybody who actually paid attention for the past month can see that Ukraine is in no position to take any territory back based on how their offensive is going.

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No position to take any territory back? How about the 300km^2 they took back already this summer?

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Yeah. They value their stuff so much. Particularly their own soldiers.

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Sure more than Ukraine who’ve been throwing theirs into minefields. If they didn’t value their soldiers they’d be doing what Ukraine is currently doing. Instead, they spent the time building defences and training their troops.

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As far as Russia is concerned, Zaporizhzhia is Russian territory and there is no chance of Ukraine actually recapturing it. Anybody who thinks that Russia would cause a major nuclear disaster on their own territory is beyond reason.

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NAFO trolls downvoting every voice critical of Ukraine, I see you.

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And thanks to blocklists we won’t have to see you ever again :)

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The International Atomic Energy Agency (UN nuclear watchdog) has been monitoring the ZNPP for months, at the request of Russia.

Today, they report there is no evidence of planted explosives at the ZNPP.

Essentially, the UN said Zelensky is full of shit.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/iaea-has-seen-no-sign-explosives-zaporizhzhia-yet-more-access-needed-2023-07-05/

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Russo bot

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Yo do realise it was Russia who’s been shelling the ZNPP, and it was the Ukrainian staff keeping the plant safe? So No, Russia hasn’t asked for monitoring. It was the IAEE itself.

" The ZNPP has been controlled by Russian forces since early March. Over the past seven months, its Ukrainian operating staff have worked to prevent a nuclear accident during the current military conflict, in extremely difficult conditions with frequent shelling at the plant or near it."

Also the IAEE STILL hasn’t been granted full access by plant which has been under Russian military control.

" The IAEA experts have requested additional access that is necessary to confirm the absence of mines or explosives. In particular, access to the rooftops of reactor units 3 and 4 is essential, as well as access to parts of the turbine halls and some parts of the cooling system at the plant."

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It’s incredible that a grown ass adult could be so gullible as to genuinely believe that Russia has been shelling a power plant they control and have stationed troops at. Western propagandists really don’t have to work hard because it’s clear that the public lacks basic reasoning skills.

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From your link:

VIENNA, July 5 (Reuters) - Experts from the U.N. nuclear watchdog based at the Russian-held Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine have yet to observe any indications of mines or explosives at the plant, but they need more access to be sure

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Hey now, let’s not let facts get in the way of a liberal circle jerk.

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Russia has been making the same claims against Ukraine since at least november 2022 in front of the UN.

Such an attack would benefit Ukraine since it’s more likely to cause NATO to get involved. Don’t forget that.

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NATO benefits the most in not getting directly involved. Don’t forget that.

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Lol. You honestly think NATO countries wouldn’t check the story before comitting to an open conflict they don’t want to be in? That the people in all of Europe wouldn’t want to know who actually blew up the plant and spewed radioactivity over their lands? That everyone’s just gonna be fine shelling out ANOTHER couple of billions to clean up Chernobyl 2.0?

If this ever actually happens (Big IF) anyone who lies about it is gonna be completely fucked when the truth inevitably comes out.

Noone benefits from this.

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Which way is the wind blowing?

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So we’re just going to take a comedian who is totally under the control of UA Nazis and US financial barons at his word? This is either a blindingly stupid lie, or the US and NATO are preparing for a false flag attack which could well lead to nuclear war. I know they’re getting desperate, but we have to hope that they know where the line is.

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This is either a blindingly stupid lie, or the US and NATO are preparing for a false flag attack which could well lead to nuclear war.

That’s a false dichotomy. Russia has been threatening to use nukes all the time. Threatening to blow up a reactor is just more of the same.

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That’s simply not true. Russian nuclear policy is exclusively retaliatory. They haven’t been making threats, but simply reminding the warmongers of the west that there are lines which must not be crossed. This has been the Russian and Soviet nuclear policy since they developed nuclear weapons technology. The threats are coming from the west, namely the US which does have a first strike policy. The US continues to threaten Russia by stationing nuclear weapons ever closer to Russia’s borders. It’s almost like nobody knows why the “Cuban” Missile Crisis started.

If anyone in the west would actually listen to Putin and Lavrov instead of putting words in their mouths, we’d all be pretty clear on what second strike nuclear policy means by now, as well as what the Russian objectives are. Instead we’re taking obvious western atrocity propaganda at face value and not even bothering to ask the very basic question of who gains by telling this story.

We can only hope this story is “just” WMDs in Iraq or babies in incubators levels of atrocity propaganda myth making, and not Gulf of Tonkin level false flag preparation. Then again the US side has already executed many of their previously prepared false flag attacks in this war. Hopefully the MacArthurs in the room don’t win this time.

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